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huaxiong90 on 28 November 2010
NYANKS said:
huaxiong90 said:
FireBringer said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Carl2291 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Some have predicted GT5 will sell 3 million by Spring.............................

What to do with that?!?!

Please don't tell me that was a serious prediction from someone.

Please.

Actually, if you studied phylosophy, even just logic, you should know that the prediction isn't technically wrong: it remains to be seen how long before Spring it will reach that goal. Already this week, perchance?   

Naturally, there's another question left, whether the "prophet" worded his prediction that way because he's clever and malicious or because he's totally clueless.   

Are you trying to be smart and clever? Fail. Someone who studies Philosophy would know how to spell it. Prehaps you should have listened better in class, than you'd know you're making blind assumptions that defeat logic in any way. Just saying mate, your fail on multiple levels humors me greatly. LOLZ^_^

 

The underlined: If you're going to correct someone's spelling, at least make sure your spelling is flawless.

Hint: The words are "perhaps" and "then".

Omg, I will take the role of Grammar Nazi in this fail battle right now.  Correcting him on "perhaps" is right.  However, "than" and "then" are both correct.  Just wanted to point out that his usage may be wrong, but the word is real.

Oh I know that, but keep in mind Europeans usually pronounce "then" as "than", so him spelling it that way still makes it a spelling mistake rather than a grammatical error.



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NYANKS on 28 November 2010
huaxiong90 said:
NYANKS said:
huaxiong90 said:
FireBringer said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Carl2291 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Some have predicted GT5 will sell 3 million by Spring.............................

What to do with that?!?!

Please don't tell me that was a serious prediction from someone.

Please.

Actually, if you studied phylosophy, even just logic, you should know that the prediction isn't technically wrong: it remains to be seen how long before Spring it will reach that goal. Already this week, perchance?   

Naturally, there's another question left, whether the "prophet" worded his prediction that way because he's clever and malicious or because he's totally clueless.   

Are you trying to be smart and clever? Fail. Someone who studies Philosophy would know how to spell it. Prehaps you should have listened better in class, than you'd know you're making blind assumptions that defeat logic in any way. Just saying mate, your fail on multiple levels humors me greatly. LOLZ^_^

 

The underlined: If you're going to correct someone's spelling, at least make sure your spelling is flawless.

Hint: The words are "perhaps" and "then".

Omg, I will take the role of Grammar Nazi in this fail battle right now.  Correcting him on "perhaps" is right.  However, "than" and "then" are both correct.  Just wanted to point out that his usage may be wrong, but the word is real.

Oh I know that, but keep in mind Europeans usually pronounce "then" as "than", so him spelling it that way still makes it a spelling mistake rather than a grammatical error.

Oh, you crazy Europeans.  haha



Alby_da_Wolf on 28 November 2010
NYANKS said:
huaxiong90 said:
NYANKS said:
huaxiong90 said:
FireBringer said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Carl2291 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Some have predicted GT5 will sell 3 million by Spring.............................

What to do with that?!?!

Please don't tell me that was a serious prediction from someone.

Please.

Actually, if you studied phylosophy, even just logic, you should know that the prediction isn't technically wrong: it remains to be seen how long before Spring it will reach that goal. Already this week, perchance?   

Naturally, there's another question left, whether the "prophet" worded his prediction that way because he's clever and malicious or because he's totally clueless.   

Are you trying to be smart and clever? Fail. Someone who studies Philosophy would know how to spell it. Prehaps you should have listened better in class, than you'd know you're making blind assumptions that defeat logic in any way. Just saying mate, your fail on multiple levels humors me greatly. LOLZ^_^

 

The underlined: If you're going to correct someone's spelling, at least make sure your spelling is flawless.

Hint: The words are "perhaps" and "then".

Omg, I will take the role of Grammar Nazi in this fail battle right now.  Correcting him on "perhaps" is right.  However, "than" and "then" are both correct.  Just wanted to point out that his usage may be wrong, but the word is real.

Oh I know that, but keep in mind Europeans usually pronounce "then" as "than", so him spelling it that way still makes it a spelling mistake rather than a grammatical error.

Oh, you crazy Europeans.  haha

LOL, I was so busy answering FireBringer about the logic and semantic aspect that I didn't even care to spellcheck him. But I wonder why he was so crabby, was he the one that made that failed attempt to predict low sales?   



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NYANKS on 28 November 2010
Alby_da_Wolf said:
NYANKS said:
huaxiong90 said:
NYANKS said:
huaxiong90 said:
FireBringer said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Carl2291 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Some have predicted GT5 will sell 3 million by Spring.............................

What to do with that?!?!

Please don't tell me that was a serious prediction from someone.

Please.

Actually, if you studied phylosophy, even just logic, you should know that the prediction isn't technically wrong: it remains to be seen how long before Spring it will reach that goal. Already this week, perchance?   

Naturally, there's another question left, whether the "prophet" worded his prediction that way because he's clever and malicious or because he's totally clueless.   

Are you trying to be smart and clever? Fail. Someone who studies Philosophy would know how to spell it. Prehaps you should have listened better in class, than you'd know you're making blind assumptions that defeat logic in any way. Just saying mate, your fail on multiple levels humors me greatly. LOLZ^_^

 

The underlined: If you're going to correct someone's spelling, at least make sure your spelling is flawless.

Hint: The words are "perhaps" and "then".

Omg, I will take the role of Grammar Nazi in this fail battle right now.  Correcting him on "perhaps" is right.  However, "than" and "then" are both correct.  Just wanted to point out that his usage may be wrong, but the word is real.

Oh I know that, but keep in mind Europeans usually pronounce "then" as "than", so him spelling it that way still makes it a spelling mistake rather than a grammatical error.

Oh, you crazy Europeans.  haha

LOL, I was so busy answering FireBringer about the logic and semantic aspect that I didn't even care to spellcheck him. But I wonder why he was so crabby, was he the one that made that failed attempt to predict low sales?   

The plot thickens!  haha This thread is silly, I like it.



stopstopp on 28 November 2010

Guys delete your pyramid! It is getting ridiculous. I know forums that ban people for making huge pyramids. Take some time and make the thread nicer.



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Jay520 on 28 November 2010
NotStan said:

2.5M FW? Not bad for a FPS dominant generation, an exclusive nonetheless, I don't know whether it will sell such large quantities if it fails to hit 4M by the end of the year, but then again bundling with almost every PS3 should keep the game sales rolling all the way to at least 9M surely, excluding bundles this game will struggle to hit 7M, but with the bundling it will push it at least above the least selling GT, well in my opinion anyway.


How many franchises this gen were known to do huge numbers? (2.5mil FW) Halo and COD. Anything else?



RAZurrection on 28 November 2010
Doobie_wop said:

They must of made a mistake, Gears 2 didn't even reach 2 million world wide on it's first week according to http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/16548/gears-of-war-2/.

Strange. Microsoft said it eclipsed 2 million copies in its opening weekend. Not including Japan. VGC undertracking again?

Doobie_wop said:

 

GT5 looks like it's going to hit 2.4 to 2.5 million copies on it's first week world wide. Even the Prologues weekly sales has been outselling Gears of War 2's weekly sales by around 3 thousand units every week, showing that the GT franchise has better legs than the Gears franchise.

Wow. 3000 per week as in every week? That'd take a year just to catch up to the launch deficit.

Doobie_wop said:

GT5 is matching the expectations of most of the people on the site, just because you raised your expectations to ridiculous levels, it doesn't mean everyone else was that silly.

Ridiculous levels? It's not really rediculous to expect at least the same level of sales of a 2nd tier franchise to 25 million users vs. honestly, the biggest exclusive the PS3 has got to 42 million users.

I don't see how everyone else wasn't being silly when 40% of VGC users polled believed GT5 would sell over 14 million.



Doobie_wop on 28 November 2010
RAZurrection said:
Doobie_wop said:

They must of made a mistake, Gears 2 didn't even reach 2 million world wide on it's first week according to http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/16548/gears-of-war-2/.

Strange. Microsoft said it eclipsed 2 million copies in its opening weekend. Not including Japan. VGC undertracking again?

Doobie_wop said:

 

GT5 looks like it's going to hit 2.4 to 2.5 million copies on it's first week world wide. Even the Prologues weekly sales has been outselling Gears of War 2's weekly sales by around 3 thousand units every week, showing that the GT franchise has better legs than the Gears franchise.

Wow. 3000 per week as in every week? That'd take a year just to catch up to the launch deficit.

Doobie_wop said:

GT5 is matching the expectations of most of the people on the site, just because you raised your expectations to ridiculous levels, it doesn't mean everyone else was that silly.

Ridiculous levels? It's not really rediculous to expect at least the same level of sales of a 2nd tier franchise to 25 million users vs. honestly, the biggest exclusive the PS3 has got to 42 million users.

I don't see how everyone else wasn't being silly when 40% of VGC users polled believed GT5 would sell over 14 million.

VGChartz probably under tracked it, you used this site as a source, so I thought I probably should as well.

3000 a week is still a pretty decent amount. It shows that when it comes to legs, the GT series will usually be the winner. It's also an overpriced glorified demo outselling a full critically acclaimed game, which to me is disturbing, mainly because I think that people are stupid for paying $20 to $40 (Gamestop) for  70 cars and 6 tracks.

GT4 opened to worldwide sales of 2.5 million on a much larger userbase and went to double the sales of Gears of War 2. GT5's opening looks like it's going to improve over it's predecessor.

CGI-Quality already explained what's wrong with the thread you posted.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

Mummelmann on 28 November 2010
atma998 said:
Mummelmann said:
atma998 said:
CGI-Quality said:
atma998 said:

lol

ok so the game will sell as much in 2012 than in 2011? How come? And it will sell more in its second and 3rd year than CoD:MW2? Come on... this isnt serious.

How did you draw that conclusion?

In 2010, it'll sell 4 million = 4 million.

In 2011, it'll sell 3 million = 7 million.

In 2012, it'll sell 2 million (give or take) = 9 million

In 2013, it'll sell 1 million (give or take) = 10 million.

Now, how did your maths deceive you? And............. CoD will have a larger drop off due to annual releases (unlike GT5, which likely be the only full GT on the system).


Well a drop of only 1 million between 2011 and 2012 sounds like wishful thinking to me, as much as thinking it will outsell CoD:MW2 second and 3rd year. And what makes you think Sony won't release a GT6 this gen? PR talks?

Reality is that CoD is far more popular than GT as a franchise so there is no chance GT5 will outsell its second year, especially when we are looking at racing sim games legs. 

GT games have the craziest legs I've ever seen, GT3 was in the Norwegian top 20 for three years and top ten for almost two years running. Games like Modern Warfare 2 are heavily frontloaded and pre-ordered with their 500 million dollar advertising budgets and this series gets a new game every single year (that's why they have two studios working on the series, so they output one game every single year). I would also suggest to wait before more racing sims are released on the PS3 to judge how they do, since there aren't exactly a whole lot of them available (In fact; there are only two and one isn't even a full game but more of a demo/trial version). As far as I can see, the only shooters that have outsold GT5:P are three Call of Duty game so your terrific logic of Shooters>>>>>>>>>>>>>Racing Sims is flawed at best and plain silly cherrypicking at worst.

Mario Kart has outsold everything this side of wheat bread, this must surely mean as a rule of thumb that Gokart Games>>>>>>>>>>>All Other Games, always. Wii Fit sitting at 20 million means Fitness Games>>>>>>>>>>>All Other Games Besides Gokart Games. See how this becomes rather silly when the scope is broadened somewhat?

I'm not saying your lifetime prediction is impossible, I'm saying that it is unlikely and it would seem that you have a very poor grasp of how game sales truly work, its not simply black and white.

So based on your logic there is no genre more popular than other. Shooter, racing sim, 2D platformer, 3D platformer, RPG, puzzle game and kart games are all equally popular.

We are trying to analyze the sales trend and we are basing our predictions with past sales of other games in the same genre. I don't see what is wrong in my pedictions considering userbase, competition, most popular franchise sales on PS3, racing sim genre this gen, launch sales of GT5, etc. But indeed it's more easy to just deny what others are predicting without taking all that into consideration and taking instead a norwegian chart of a past GT released on PS2...

Unlike you, I have explained my prediction and I think it's a very reasonnable one. I know there is a lot of PS3 fans here that doesnt want to admit it, so in the end I will repeat what I said in my first post:

It will takes more than a year before people predicting 10M (and more) sales may admit the true potential of this game.

Talk about making strawmen galore. I see you still debate on the same level as before, I won't go down this road again. I made my points perfectly clear and showed how your thinking was less than optimal, to say the least and would be hard pressed to make it any more clear. Your whole premise is that CoD has sold a lot, ergo shooters are bigger than racing sims (which have only just now made their appearance). CoD is unique, as is GT and they are equally big and influental in their respective genres. People won't admit you prediction is reasonable because they genuinely don't think it is and because the thought process behind it is highly simplified and not very reflected.

PS: I was never one of those who thought GT5 will sell 10 million. I still don't. I also find it funny that you would assume that the Norwegian video game market operates entirely differently from other countries and regions since the data was apparently utterly useless and this speaks volumes of your dedication to drive your points home with any and all means necessary. Like I said; I won't go down this road again, have fun.



4k1x3r on 28 November 2010
RAZurrection said:
Doobie_wop said:

They must of made a mistake, Gears 2 didn't even reach 2 million world wide on it's first week according to http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/16548/gears-of-war-2/.

Strange. Microsoft said it eclipsed 2 million copies in its opening weekend. Not including Japan. VGC undertracking again?

 

Week Americas Japan EMEAA Worldwide Running Total
1 1,306,571 49,280 589,673 1,945,524 1,945,524

2M is shipped. /topic

By the way haters gonna hate! I'm gonna laugh so much reading prediction thread for GT5. (remember someone predicting 1.2M first week and 4.5M lifetime!! Lulz!)