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TheRealMafoo said:
Mr Khan said:

In the 90's, America was viewed favorably by some radical Islamists:


Can you link me to one?


Perhaps i was wrong on saying radical, and this is totally non-helpful, but i read a book last year about a guy who went into northern pakistan and Afghanistan to build schools, and he was talking about how him being American helped his cause rather than hurt it before 9/11, because the locals remembered the Americans as the ones that helped them get rid of the Soviets, and saved the Bosnians from the Serbs



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Mr Khan said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Mr Khan said:

In the 90's, America was viewed favorably by some radical Islamists:


Can you link me to one?


Perhaps i was wrong on saying radical, and this is totally non-helpful, but i read a book last year about a guy who went into northern pakistan and Afghanistan to build schools, and he was talking about how him being American helped his cause rather than hurt it before 9/11, because the locals remembered the Americans as the ones that helped them get rid of the Soviets, and saved the Bosnians from the Serbs


Yea, that I can see happening. What might shock many people, is that could still happen today. Many parts of Afghanistan (and Iraq), are happy we are there.



TheRealMafoo said:

If you think child pornography doesn't directly harm anyone, you might want to see someone. That's a strange position to take on that subject. Sure, looking at it doesn't. But to look at it, it had to be created. Nothing bad had to happen in order for this man to have a book and a match.

I think what people need to focus on with respect to possible violence, is the people who would cause the violence, and why they would cause it.

The problem is not that 50 morons somewhere want to burn a stack of papers. The problem is that means so much to someone, they would kill over it. 

Your idea to bring peace to with the Western World and Islam is to make sure every one of the 300 million Americans walk on eggshells, and cater to the most violent of a religion?

Fuck that. I say that man, and every other American, has the freedom to exercise there rights, and if it pisses someone else off enough for them to inflict violence, the solution is to fix whomever is violent.

What about animated child pornography?



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sapphi_snake said:
TheRealMafoo said:

If you think child pornography doesn't directly harm anyone, you might want to see someone. That's a strange position to take on that subject. Sure, looking at it doesn't. But to look at it, it had to be created. Nothing bad had to happen in order for this man to have a book and a match.

I think what people need to focus on with respect to possible violence, is the people who would cause the violence, and why they would cause it.

The problem is not that 50 morons somewhere want to burn a stack of papers. The problem is that means so much to someone, they would kill over it. 

Your idea to bring peace to with the Western World and Islam is to make sure every one of the 300 million Americans walk on eggshells, and cater to the most violent of a religion?

Fuck that. I say that man, and every other American, has the freedom to exercise there rights, and if it pisses someone else off enough for them to inflict violence, the solution is to fix whomever is violent.

What about animated child pornography?


Uh, it's awesome?



WessleWoggle said:
sapphi_snake said:
TheRealMafoo said:

If you think child pornography doesn't directly harm anyone, you might want to see someone. That's a strange position to take on that subject. Sure, looking at it doesn't. But to look at it, it had to be created. Nothing bad had to happen in order for this man to have a book and a match.

I think what people need to focus on with respect to possible violence, is the people who would cause the violence, and why they would cause it.

The problem is not that 50 morons somewhere want to burn a stack of papers. The problem is that means so much to someone, they would kill over it. 

Your idea to bring peace to with the Western World and Islam is to make sure every one of the 300 million Americans walk on eggshells, and cater to the most violent of a religion?

Fuck that. I say that man, and every other American, has the freedom to exercise there rights, and if it pisses someone else off enough for them to inflict violence, the solution is to fix whomever is violent.

What about animated child pornography?


Uh, it's awesome?

You get a free pass for being crazy.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

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sapphi_snake said:
TheRealMafoo said:

If you think child pornography doesn't directly harm anyone, you might want to see someone. That's a strange position to take on that subject. Sure, looking at it doesn't. But to look at it, it had to be created. Nothing bad had to happen in order for this man to have a book and a match.

I think what people need to focus on with respect to possible violence, is the people who would cause the violence, and why they would cause it.

The problem is not that 50 morons somewhere want to burn a stack of papers. The problem is that means so much to someone, they would kill over it. 

Your idea to bring peace to with the Western World and Islam is to make sure every one of the 300 million Americans walk on eggshells, and cater to the most violent of a religion?

Fuck that. I say that man, and every other American, has the freedom to exercise there rights, and if it pisses someone else off enough for them to inflict violence, the solution is to fix whomever is violent.

What about animated child pornography?


In the US animated child pornography in and of itself, is not against the law. It's against the law to transmit it across state lines, or distribute it on a computer, but it's not against the law for you to own it.

It's one of those things were I would worry about someone if they had it, but then again I kill hundreds of people a day in video games, and it's not like I want to kill anyone in real life.

As long as the people who own this material never inflict anything on anyone else, I say who gives a shit?



TheRealMafoo said:


In the US animated child pornography in and of itself, is not against the law. It's against the law to transmit it across state lines, or distribute it on a computer, but it's not against the law for you to own it.

It's one of those things were I would worry about someone if they had it, but then again I kill hundreds of people a day in video games, and it's not like I want to kill anyone in real life.

As long as the people who own this material never inflict anything on anyone else, I say who gives a shit?

Well I guess that's an OK view. Personally though I wouldn't let someone who had animated child pornography near my kid sister.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
TheRealMafoo said:


In the US animated child pornography in and of itself, is not against the law. It's against the law to transmit it across state lines, or distribute it on a computer, but it's not against the law for you to own it.

It's one of those things were I would worry about someone if they had it, but then again I kill hundreds of people a day in video games, and it's not like I want to kill anyone in real life.

As long as the people who own this material never inflict anything on anyone else, I say who gives a shit?

Well I guess that's an OK view. Personally though I wouldn't let someone who had animated child pornography near my kid sister.

What if it's yaoi(boy on boy) animated child pornography?



WessleWoggle said:
sapphi_snake said:
TheRealMafoo said:


In the US animated child pornography in and of itself, is not against the law. It's against the law to transmit it across state lines, or distribute it on a computer, but it's not against the law for you to own it.

It's one of those things were I would worry about someone if they had it, but then again I kill hundreds of people a day in video games, and it's not like I want to kill anyone in real life.

As long as the people who own this material never inflict anything on anyone else, I say who gives a shit?

Well I guess that's an OK view. Personally though I wouldn't let someone who had animated child pornography near my kid sister.

What if it's yaoi(boy on boy) animated child pornography?

If it involves kids that's a big no no! Can't you just watch yaoi with grown men depicted?



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Coca-Cola said:
sapphi_snake said:

@ Coca-Cola

It really seem like you don't like Christianity.

I like any religion as long as it doesn't try to influence my life.

No doubt Christianity had a most to do with it.

Do some studying on this issue.

Religious freedom and secular government are both influenced by Christianity. 

Not really. Study the origins of secularism.

You don't see all the good Christians are doing around the world today?

Lot's of organisations do good. Christianity is in no way special in that regard. Plus they often use the good they do to push their religious agenda in poor countries where they send missionaries.

Only problem I have with Christianity is theology.  Some lose their common sense when it comes to thology, but in practice, I believe Christians encourages high values and morality.  

Morality is subjective. I personally don't consider all Chrisitan principles to be moral.

I did some readings and studied - I'm sure we read different books.  I see where you are coming from and I respect it.

Though we disagree about secularism/Christianity, I respect your opinions and learned a lot from reading your posts so I respect you as a person.  I'm sure we'd get along if we met at a bar or something. 

I dread to think what books you've read.

But yeah, we'd probably get along in a bar.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)