@Kasz216

I'm not "pulling this out of my ass".  I have an actual real life degree in psychology.

Your degree in psychology atests the fact that you may know what PTSD is and it's effects. When I said you "pull things out of your ass" I was reffering to the fact that you have no proof of the current state of PTSD among the people in the US (and FTR all you presented was an outdated study). I think you're overexagerating with your nightmaire scenario of millions of people seeing the mosque and having panic attacks.

What it comes down to, is you think people should be assholes, just to be assholes.  Which is something I don't know why anyone would agree with.  When given the choice to make two equal choices, one of which is much more assholish and inconsiderate to people then the other, it's completely asnine to refuse to do it simply because it wasn't your orignal plan.

So the sole purpose of building this mosque is to cause pain and suffering? You're saying that the poeple building the mosque desire to be assholes?

I just simply see a case where one group is needlessly antagonizing people who've been traumitized by an attack for no good reason.  The fact that some people actually think people shouldn't be criticized for that is just... stupid.

The only people beeing antagonised needlessly are the ones building the mosque. You've been doing a great job of portraying them as monsters who are building the mosque solely for causing pain and suffering to a hypothetical population that suffers from PTSD and incidentally has mosques as a trigger. I'm sure your argument is far from being stupid (at least in your head).

I did some readings and studied - I'm sure we read different books.  I see where you are coming from and I respect it.

Though we disagree about secularism/Christianity, I respect your opinions and learned a lot from reading your posts so I respect you as a person.  I'm sure we'd get along if we met at a bar or something. 

and why just 9/11?  there are tons of innocent iraqi survivors , shouldn't we ban the american flag since we care so much? what about other victims all around the world? should we help them to grow out of their PTSD or just isolate them?

The right to build a mosque is fine, it is a shot against intolerance. 

Burning books? Either these are very very evil and hateful people; or they're just a bunch of ignorant hillbillies; either way, they are supporting intolerance.

There is no law against being evil, hateful, or ignorant. As long as you do no harm to anyone, you can do what you want in a free country.

These people are doing nothing. They are acting within themselves in a manner that offends others. They are not damaging anyone else's property, or threatening anyone. To stop them, would be an act of intolerance.

People forget being free, means your free to do things others find disgusting. If everyone always did things we agreed with, we would never need laws.

I agree with you.

But wouldn't you agree that the level of caution that should be taken against a religion going through it's dark age's is different than one beyond it?

I am not saying we should outlaw Islam, or even that 95% of it isn't great. I am saying we should not be trying to convince people that Islam has no issues at all.

If Obama and this administration could have there way, the US people would never associate any crime with Islam. And I am sorry, but that's just not reality.

 Oh, and it takes a lot to freak me out. ;)

Tolerance is not a virtue  as the most tolerant people on earth are dead people. You can spit in their face and they won't say a word. Dead people don't even brag about how tolerant they are.  Also if you preach against intolerance then that in itself reflect intolerance.  It goes both ways , moving the mosque is also reflect to tolerance as well let this preacher burn any book he wants.
 What sometimes is called tolerance is nothing but the spirit of apathy.

So you think think that inciting violence is fine? These people ARE harming others with their act.

By your logic possession of child pornography should be legal since it doesn't directly harm anyone.

This is an act off ignorance, they do not care about the mission to bring peace between islam and the western world. They want to aggravate the situation, open up old wounds that were healing, and as a result, spill more blood. You are supporting stupidity, which will end in provoking violence, and cost lives.

Do I even need to mention how un-Christian hate-mongering is?

Wow I wish more people had these thoughts. Then the West would actually be sane and have a bright future.

There is very large difference in the flavour of intolerance of people based on race and religion, and the intolerance of a philosophy of hate.