Wow, looks like Kinect is going to kill Move in the US. Move comes out in just three weeks while Kinect comes out in 11 weeks and yet Kinect has four times the number of preorders that Move has (91.5k preorders for Kinect Adventures versus 23.5k preorders for Sports Champions). Based on those indicators, Kinect looks like it could outsell Move this fall by 4:1 to 7:1 or so ratios which is a staggering difference.

Since Move comes out in 3 weeks has about 23.5K preorders, I'd say it might sell about 100k the opening week. Kinect has 91.5k preorders already and doesn't come out for 11 weeks so we could be looking at opening week sell through numbers for Kinect of about 300k to 400k or greater.

Is Move really in that much trouble? Seems like very few people are actually interested in the system. Kinect, OTOH, seems like it might actually have blockbuster sales this holiday season.

wow@Reach and BO

Well needless to say I do not understand why 360 is just so more popular in America than the rest of the world but damn they do certainly pre-order like a mofo

Well of course Kinect Adventures is going to be higher.  Every Kinect comes with one.  However, with Move it's much harder to track.  I mean just judging by games sold that require the PS Eye, Eye Pet (~500K) & Eye of Judgement (~300K) plus people who may have purchased the cam without these games, I would guess there were ~ 1 mil of them out there before the announcement of Move.  Of course, it could have been more or it could have been less.  I do know I'm one of them, and I'm not purchasing the bundle.

I also know that after the announcement of the PS Move, several of the Wal-marts and Gamestops around me put out the PS Eye on shelves at a discounted price (usually about $10 -$15 off).  This was most likely to clear out stock of the cam for the new Move bundles.  And I'm guessing it worked, cause most of them are no longer on the shelves.  Either way, these people are most likely not going to buy the Sports Champion Bundle.

You also have to include Eye Pet, as the NA version requires the PS Move.  Which, if I remember correctly, is also being bundled with it.

the racing fans appear here, but not in the GT5 threads =(

And again GT5 is dOOmed..., some people here still seem to think that America=World..., guys... really... it'll do just fine. Fable 3 will probably outsell GT5 in Americas, but that's not really surprising. WW it will be destroyed by GT5, so...

Wow, Kinect Adventures is climbing very fast.

I'm think there are going to be some very impressive numbers when the launch gets closer.

i really wonder who are all of those 360 owners pre ordering kinect.

disapointing gt5, im again lowering my expectations.

wow at reach and black ops numbers. 

lbp2 numbers arent bad.

sports champions pre orders arent bad. i think that lbp2 alone will sell at least 500k move controllers.

No, to get Move you need to have both a Move controller and a playstation eye which the vast majority of owners will get by buying the Move starter bundle, which includes the Sports Champion game (and are the vast majority of the sales listed in the Sports Champio  preorder bucket). The only other circumstance is if an inidivudal owns Sony Eye already and then can just buy the Move copntroller seperatly and whatever game they want. Even then, I'd think most owners are buying Sports Champion as their first move game. I don't see any other Move title on the list besides Eyepet so I think the numbe of poeple preordering Sports Champion is a pretty accurate proxy for the number of people who have preordered Move.

You can't just add the Eyepet to the number of new Move owners since the Eyepet is just a game. It doesn't include the Move controller nor does it include the eye videocamera tracking system. I think a great deal of those sales are just going to owneres of the current eyetoy who want a new game for it.

For people who aren't buying Move through the starter bundle, we'd have to track the sales of the Move and Eye toy peripherals seperately to count for those type of owners. I don't see presales of any other Move game in the top 50 list except for Sport Champions and Eye Pet.