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themanwithnoname on 10 July 2010
MrBubbles said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
MrBubbles said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Microsoft really needs to drop this franchise as an exclusive. Sony dropped Quantum Theory and I feel that was in the best interest of quality.


microsoft owns this.  sony never owned quantum theory afaik...


First of all Microsoft doesn't own anything pertaining to the franchise. Konami is publishing these titles. Microsoft might have paid Konami to make sure it stays exclusive (not like Sony or Nintendo cares anyway). Quantum Theory might end up being way better than NNN2 so it just shows how high Sony's quality controls attention to detail is. If you tally average exclusives its not going to help anything for Microsoft. Microsoft might close out 2010 better than Sony but 2011 will be all Sony until Gears 3 launches. Microsoft is relying too much on second and third party titles. 


first of all... MICROSOFT OWNS NINETY NINE NIGHTS.  IT IS THEIR FRANCHISE. IT BELONGS TO THEM (MICROSOFT).  microsoft let konami publish the second game. 

It's pretty much the exact same situation as Infinite Undiscovery.



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Severance on 10 July 2010

MS owns NNN , its their IP. i don't know about IU though.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 11 July 2010
MrBubbles said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
MrBubbles said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Microsoft really needs to drop this franchise as an exclusive. Sony dropped Quantum Theory and I feel that was in the best interest of quality.


microsoft owns this.  sony never owned quantum theory afaik...


First of all Microsoft doesn't own anything pertaining to the franchise. Konami is publishing these titles. Microsoft might have paid Konami to make sure it stays exclusive (not like Sony or Nintendo cares anyway). Quantum Theory might end up being way better than NNN2 so it just shows how high Sony's quality controls attention to detail is. If you tally average exclusives its not going to help anything for Microsoft. Microsoft might close out 2010 better than Sony but 2011 will be all Sony until Gears 3 launches. Microsoft is relying too much on second and third party titles. 


first of all... MICROSOFT OWNS NINETY NINE NIGHTS.  IT IS THEIR FRANCHISE. IT BELONGS TO THEM (MICROSOFT).  microsoft let konami publish the second game. 


That statement made no sense. Microsoft published the first game, not the second game. Not much of a franchise to begin with. Microsoft doesn't own the IP and if they do show it to me in writing because its not published by them. Microsoft publishes their IP's.



themanwithnoname on 11 July 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:
MrBubbles said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
MrBubbles said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Microsoft really needs to drop this franchise as an exclusive. Sony dropped Quantum Theory and I feel that was in the best interest of quality.


microsoft owns this.  sony never owned quantum theory afaik...


First of all Microsoft doesn't own anything pertaining to the franchise. Konami is publishing these titles. Microsoft might have paid Konami to make sure it stays exclusive (not like Sony or Nintendo cares anyway). Quantum Theory might end up being way better than NNN2 so it just shows how high Sony's quality controls attention to detail is. If you tally average exclusives its not going to help anything for Microsoft. Microsoft might close out 2010 better than Sony but 2011 will be all Sony until Gears 3 launches. Microsoft is relying too much on second and third party titles. 


first of all... MICROSOFT OWNS NINETY NINE NIGHTS.  IT IS THEIR FRANCHISE. IT BELONGS TO THEM (MICROSOFT).  microsoft let konami publish the second game. 


That statement made no sense. Microsoft published the first game, not the second game. Not much of a franchise to begin with.

Why are you trying to change your argument? Who cares if it's a "franchise"...that's not the point. Just admit you were wrong and move on.



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dsister on 11 July 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:


That statement made no sense. Microsoft published the first game, not the second game. Not much of a franchise to begin with. Microsoft doesn't own the IP and if they do show it to me in writing because its not published by them. Microsoft publishes their IP's.


Well there's this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Game_Studios

But if you don't believe Wikipedia then there is this: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/konami-signs-ninety-nine-nights-2

Note the first paragraph; "Microsoft has announced Konami as the publisher of Xbox 360 exclusive Ninety-Nine Nights 2." 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 11 July 2010
dsister said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


That statement made no sense. Microsoft published the first game, not the second game. Not much of a franchise to begin with. Microsoft doesn't own the IP and if they do show it to me in writing because its not published by them. Microsoft publishes their IP's.


Well there's this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Game_Studios

But if you don't believe Wikipedia then there is this: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/konami-signs-ninety-nine-nights-2

Note the first paragraph; "Microsoft has announced Konami as the publisher of Xbox 360 exclusive Ninety-Nine Nights 2." 

 

I know what MGS is and the Eurogamer article basically just said Microsoft announced Konami as the publisher of the 360 title.

Secondly, look below at the wikipedia link (which you gave) under which party the titles are. NNN3 is listed as a third party title. This isn't a very good argument you guys are throwing at me. As I said, it's not Microsofts and I am sure no other company would want the title even if Microsoft dropped it.



MrBubbles on 11 July 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:
dsister said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


That statement made no sense. Microsoft published the first game, not the second game. Not much of a franchise to begin with. Microsoft doesn't own the IP and if they do show it to me in writing because its not published by them. Microsoft publishes their IP's.


Well there's this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Game_Studios

But if you don't believe Wikipedia then there is this: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/konami-signs-ninety-nine-nights-2

Note the first paragraph; "Microsoft has announced Konami as the publisher of Xbox 360 exclusive Ninety-Nine Nights 2." 

 

I know what MGS is and the Eurogamer article basically just said Microsoft announced Konami as the publisher of the 360 title.

Secondly, look below at the wikipedia link (which you gave) under which party the titles are. NNN3 is listed as a third party title. This isn't a very good argument you guys are throwing at me. As I said, it's not Microsofts and I am sure no other company would want the title even if Microsoft dropped it.


its clearly listed as an OWNED PROPERTY on the wiki page NOT A THIRD PARTY TITLE (there is reference to feel plus as a microsoft partner and have done work on n3 and lost odyssey which are both fully owned microsoft intellectual properties).  additionally you could look up microsofts trademarks which is as simple as typing microsoft and trademarks into a search engine and STOP FUCKING PLAYING WHATEVER STUPID GAME IT IS THAT YOU ARE PLAYING. then come back and apologize for behaving the way you are.



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dsister on 11 July 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:

 

I know what MGS is and the Eurogamer article basically just said Microsoft announced Konami as the publisher of the 360 title.

Secondly, look below at the wikipedia link (which you gave) under which party the titles are. NNN3 is listed as a third party title. This isn't a very good argument you guys are throwing at me. As I said, it's not Microsofts and I am sure no other company would want the title even if Microsoft dropped it.


I'll be more then glad to argue with you, but let me start off by saying you are wrong.

Secondly why would Microsoft announce the publisher of a game, really?



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themanwithnoname on 11 July 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:
dsister said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


That statement made no sense. Microsoft published the first game, not the second game. Not much of a franchise to begin with. Microsoft doesn't own the IP and if they do show it to me in writing because its not published by them. Microsoft publishes their IP's.


Well there's this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Game_Studios

But if you don't believe Wikipedia then there is this: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/konami-signs-ninety-nine-nights-2

Note the first paragraph; "Microsoft has announced Konami as the publisher of Xbox 360 exclusive Ninety-Nine Nights 2." 

 

I know what MGS is and the Eurogamer article basically just said Microsoft announced Konami as the publisher of the 360 title.

Secondly, look below at the wikipedia link (which you gave) under which party the titles are. NNN3 is listed as a third party title. This isn't a very good argument you guys are throwing at me. As I said, it's not Microsofts and I am sure no other company would want the title even if Microsoft dropped it.

So please tell me where your overwhelming heaps of evidence are that Microsoft doesn't own it? All you have are constant denials all over the place because hey you're "sure no other company would want the title even if Microsoft dropped it." Oh really? You convinced me! I'd rather ignore the evidence showing that Microsoft owns it and take your opinion that nobody else would want the title. Do you have one piece of evidence that isn't opinion? If so, please share it.

feelplus is listed as third party, not NNNII, but I'll play this game anyway. Maybe you haven't noticed, but Mistwalker is also listed as third party. Who owns Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey? Oh wait, Microsoft does. Ruffian Games also listed under third party. Who owns Crackdown? Microsoft again. Frontier Developments listed as third party. Who owns Kinectimals? Microsoft one more time.

Now, do you want me to go on, or would you rather continue this argument based on absolutely nothing but your opinion?



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myabsolution on 14 July 2010

yeah when you play the game, right above "press start".... it says Ninety Nine Nights is a Microsoft trademark...

 

this guy is laughable if he doesn't understand the difference between third partiy owned and developed exclusives and third parties making games for Microsoft franchises. Admit your wrong big guy, cmon its not so bad to have some humility.

 

And yes I have 980/1000G in this game, its got some flaws for sure, but its actually pretty decent. Maybe 6.5 or 7/10 but not a 45 metascore or below like half the reviews. Reviewers should review games they think they are interested in. Why have someone who hates Racing games review all the car/vehcile games? Same goes for hack n slash uber kill fest games.