Congratulations Chinatown Wars! I loved it and am happy to see it break the million sales barrier. Whoever said it was the biggest flop never saw the GTA on the GBA. That game was horrible gameplay-wise and sales-wise, and could only fit a few cars on the screen at a time. So when you drove full speed you almost saw no cars.

And stop making excuses for the PSP version. The Resident Evil 4 port on the Wii matched what it sold on the GC with a smaller userbase. The Okami port on the Wii sold twice as much as the PS2 version, with a much much much smaller userbase. It's possible for a port to outsell the original if it has the right marketing and the right kind of fans. If you believe the DS crowd didn't gobble this game up by the millions because they're all casuals, then you need to also believe that the PSP crowd liked it even less because they all bought their PSPs for porn and piracy instead of games.

Everybody talking about userbase sizes obviously has never looked at our sales charts here, which we post every week, for free, at the top of the front page. If userbase mattered, then all the best-selling games of all time would be on the PS2, which had the biggest userbase of all time. There's no PS2 game in the top 10. Userbase size does not matter. Bigger userbases are more diverse and crazy.

This!

Yeah sure comparing a system selling software during ten years to a system selling software during only 5 years. Nice job!

And like I said before... now you can compare software sales between a handheld and a home console, but when you are saying that the DS will become (very soon) the best selling gaming system, there is people claiming that you can't compare a handheld to a home console.

As for FFXIII, you said it all, the game was exlusive in Japan and didnt sell as much as FFX or FFXII did. I guess the userbase does play a role after all.

If the budget was higher than the PSP versions, is because those portable versions are nothing else than almost direct ports.

If made from the ground up it would have a big budget.

I know it burns you up that Carnival Games has become more relevant than GTA but on the bright side, at least CG sales keep TT around long enough for Rockstar to put out another GTA or two.

terrible for a GTA game and considering the userbase, not that incredible

This generation has given people unrealistic expectations for how games need to perform. A lot of people think most games are flops if they don't sell at least 2 or 3 million copies but thats just the furthest thing from the truth. You have to look at so many factors (genre, developer, advertising, first or third party, new IP or established) to determine a game's success. I wish more people would use their head and realize that even a high budget handheld title is still going to cost very little to make, and anything over 500,000 copies sold is most likely a success. Those numbers are raised a bit for consoles, but people complaining that a game that sells 1.8 million probably lost money are just ignorant. 

In other news, Dead Space: Extraction is over 220k

1. Great damage control

2. So? This is about software sales, not hardware. He pulled the Wii into the comparison so i proved him wrong with the mighty PS2.

3. Nope. Not really. Poor reception to the game itself for changing stuff and being "linear" would have caused that. As Yakuza would prove my point again, with Yakuza 4 being the fastest selling in the series, faster than the PS2 Yakuza Now could you stay on topic please, and not make this into a FF discussion. This is about how GTA:CW has underperformed compared to every other GTA game. Thanks.

"terrible for a GTA game and considering the userbase, not that incredible"

Did you look at the sales for the GTA games before III? They were terrible as well considering the userbase for the PS1.