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Arius Dion said:
Mazty said:
Arius Dion said:
I think all consoles have peaked. I think Wii is going to sell more in 2010 than it did in 2009. Which means having another 20m+ year. Which continues this unprecedented streak. Even the PS2 only managed 20m once. Wii's done it twice already and looks to make it three.

Even though PS3 is selling the most is has ever done since the price cut?


That's pretty easy to accomplish.

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Arius Dion said:
Mazty said:
Arius Dion said:
I think all consoles have peaked. I think Wii is going to sell more in 2010 than it did in 2009. Which means having another 20m+ year. Which continues this unprecedented streak. Even the PS2 only managed 20m once. Wii's done it twice already and looks to make it three.

Even though PS3 is selling the most is has ever done since the price cut?


That's pretty easy to accomplish.

Don't post inane replies. Fact is the PS3 is selling more than it has ever done before, outselling the 360. To say all the consoles have peaked means you are either not looking at current sales or know something that the market and buyers do not know, and will cause sales to dramitically reduce even with many exclusive titles due for release.

So, which is it?



The PS3 isn't selling more than it ever has, it's supply constrained. It did during the holiday season, same as the Wii. The Wii could easily sell another 50M units just with Wii fit.



lvader said:
The PS3 isn't selling more than it ever has, it's supply constrained. It did during the holiday season, same as the Wii. The Wii could easily sell another 50M units just with Wii fit.

No it is selling more than it has - check the figures. And the shortage is being sorted with the release of FF13 and GoW3 due. The facts are simple:

The PS3 is selling more Week on week than it has done before

The Wii is not.

The 360 is not.


How can you derive from the above that all the consoles have peaked when in fact it looks like only two out of the three have?



I'm a little skeptical to think that a new Zelda, SMG2 or Wii Vitality would help hardware sales very much. Just like a new Halo game on the X360 right now would barely move any hardware because everyone that wants to play Halo already owns a X360 (just look at Halo ODST and Wars). So that eliminates the new Zelda and Super Mario Galaxy 2. Now Wii Vitality, that's the tricky one it very well could end up like another Wii Music though. I'm sorry but I don't really see anything that exciting about knowing your pulse? Maybe it does other things as well but is it really a system seller, will people that don't own a Wii think hmm I want to buy a Wii to be able to use Wii Vitality, I don't really think so. I think it'll take the same fate as Zelda and SMG2, it'll sell a lot but won't move much hardware.



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Gilgamesh said:

I'm a little skeptical to think that a new Zelda, SMG2 or Wii Vitality would help hardware sales very much. Just like a new Halo game on the X360 right now would barely move any hardware because everyone that wants to play Halo already owns a X360 (just look at Halo ODST and Wars). So that eliminates the new Zelda and Super Mario Galaxy 2. Now Wii Vitality, that's the tricky one it very well could end up like another Wii Music though. I'm sorry but I don't really see anything that exciting about knowing your pulse? Maybe it does other things as well but is it really a system seller, will people that don't own a Wii think hmm I want to buy a Wii to be able to use Wii Vitality, I don't really think so. I think it'll take the same fate as Zelda and SMG2, it'll sell a lot but won't move much hardware.

You all made the same arguement with New Super Mario Bros. Wii... saying it wouldn't move hardware because Mario fans already had a Wii because of Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii, Super Paper Mario, and every other Mario spinoff game on Wii.


Look how that turned out.



chichi-101 said:
Mummelmann said:
I think it has peaked, we're actually seeing HD outselling the Wii by a fair amount (30-50) weekly now for the first time in ages even with a 360 in decline as well. The DS is also heavily down and the PSP is grasping for straws.
All in all; like I've maintained all along, this gen will be a whole lot shorter than most anticipated.

How long do you think it will be?

I have no clue as to when the consoles themselves will be discontinued all together but I think its a fair assumption that all three (plus a possible fourth) will have released a new console by the end of 2012 going by todays sales (yes, one can argue that Ninty will keep on selling a lot more than the competition, and they will, but they can't afford to be left behind when the next gen starts, doubly so when the hardware chasm between it and the two others runs as wide and deep as it already does). If anything, this gen has showed us that even from the highest throne, one can fall amazingly hard on one's ass (Sony) and that nothing should be taken for granted.



Kenology said:
Gilgamesh said:

I'm a little skeptical to think that a new Zelda, SMG2 or Wii Vitality would help hardware sales very much. Just like a new Halo game on the X360 right now would barely move any hardware because everyone that wants to play Halo already owns a X360 (just look at Halo ODST and Wars). So that eliminates the new Zelda and Super Mario Galaxy 2. Now Wii Vitality, that's the tricky one it very well could end up like another Wii Music though. I'm sorry but I don't really see anything that exciting about knowing your pulse? Maybe it does other things as well but is it really a system seller, will people that don't own a Wii think hmm I want to buy a Wii to be able to use Wii Vitality, I don't really think so. I think it'll take the same fate as Zelda and SMG2, it'll sell a lot but won't move much hardware.

You all made the same arguement with New Super Mario Bros. Wii... saying it wouldn't move hardware because Mario fans already had a Wii because of Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii, Super Paper Mario, and every other Mario spinoff game on Wii.


Look how that turned out.

??

Who thought that, obviously it was going to sell like hot cakes and it's a new different Mario game for the Wii, unlike Zelda and SMG2, which will be sequels. NSMB did wonders for the DS so obviously it was going to make just as much of an impact on the Wii. I'm not saying Zelda or SMG2 are not going to sell, both will sell extremely well, but it's not so much of a hardware pusher. Why would someone buy a Wii for those games when they can already buy a Wii now and get SMG1 and Zelda Twilight Princess right now?



New Super Mario Bros. Wii + Wii Sports Resort + Wii Fit Plus is a tough combo to beat. If NSMBWii can keep the interest for Wii up this half of the year, and Nintendo releases something similar next half, then Wii will definitely go over 20m this year as well. But after that I do believe we won't see those numbers again. So, it either peaked in 2008, or 2010. I'm leaning against 2008.



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RolStoppable said:
If Zelda makes good use of Motion Plus, it could bring the old fanbase of the series back and won't be restricted to just the Ocarina of Time fans. Zelda Wii could become the first game in the series to cross 10m in sales. If Nintendo gets it right.

But that's doubtful considering what Aonuma has been doing with the series over the course of the past decade.

That is what I am Hopeing on, but I have little hope till I hear stuff from E3 etc on it.