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Easy answer...Yes

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SMG2 and Zelda wont change hardware sales. Sequels to games already on a system that has sold 70M+ dont push hardware sales.

Since when is Wii Vitality Sensor considered anything but a joke?



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

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I think all consoles have peaked. I think Wii is going to sell more in 2010 than it did in 2009. Which means having another 20m+ year. Which continues this unprecedented streak. Even the PS2 only managed 20m once. Wii's done it twice already and looks to make it three.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

The Wii will not beat its 2008 year, but that means nothing about how long its life will be. It shouldn't be a problem even if it declines in comparison to 2009, as its 2009 numbers were high enough as it is, and there's no telling if or when it will rise again. People don't seem to realize it, but the PS2 didn't exactly get to where it was from a late peak year. See here:

Worldwide sales

2000: 5.61 million
2001: 16.07 million
2002: 21.29 million
2003: 19.08 million
2004: 16.78 million
2005: 18.78 million

Its NPD looks much worse, if people saw this pattern for the Wii they'd be calling doom on the system even more so:

PS2
2001: (7.4m)
2002: 8.42m (15.8m) <- $100 May price cut ($200)
2003: 6.32m (22.2m) <- $20 May price cut ($180)
2004: 4.63m (26.8m) <- $30 May price cut ($150), Slim model Sept
2005: 5.44m (32.3m)
2006: 4.70m (37.1m) <- $20 April price cut ($130)
2007: 3.97m (41.1m) <- Slim 2
2008: 2.50m (43.6m) <- Slim 3
2009: 1.80m (44.4m) <- $30 April price cut ($99)


Note the peak in 2002, and its resurgence in 2005. Lifetime console sales aren't a sprint, they're a marathon. People are getting too worked up over the Wii's current sales, there's no telling how well it may do later in its life.



Although yearly sales peaked in 2008, quarterly sales actually peaked end of 2009. So it might be a bit early to say it has peaked when the peak has only just happened. I think sales will stay quite strong thoughout 2010 and will continue to out sell the 360 and PS3 (but not combined). Nintendo still has several cards it can play, they have great scopee for price reduction and the black (and other colours) has yet to be released in the US. I expect a replacement console in 2012, but I expect they will continue to sell the Wii at a reduced price beyond that.



thx1139 said:

Easy answer...Yes

Comments and question.

SMG2 and Zelda wont change hardware sales. Sequels to games already on a system that has sold 70M+ dont push hardware sales.

Since when is Wii Vitality Sensor considered anything but a joke?

It will still sell 20mil this year, which is the best any home console has ever done ( selling 20 million or more in a year three times)

If Vitality Sensor is a joke then so is PS Move and Natal, I mean atleast we know Nintendo has a good track record this generation when it comes to new tech being implemented into video games.

If they succeed it doesn't matter if it never reaches 24-25 million a year again, aslong as it is consistant it will take awhile before it drops dramatically. Meaning we could see sales of 18-20 mill for some years before the "big" drop.



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c0rd said:

The Wii will not beat its 2008 year, but that means nothing about how long its life will be. It shouldn't be a problem even if it declines in comparison to 2009, as its 2009 numbers were high enough as it is, and there's no telling if or when it will rise again. People don't seem to realize it, but the PS2 didn't exactly get to where it was from a late peak year. See here:

Worldwide sales

2000: 5.61 million
2001: 16.07 million
2002: 21.29 million
2003: 19.08 million
2004: 16.78 million
2005: 18.78 million

Its NPD looks much worse, if people saw this pattern for the Wii they'd be calling doom on the system even more so:

PS2
2001: (7.4m)
2002: 8.42m (15.8m) <- $100 May price cut ($200)
2003: 6.32m (22.2m) <- $20 May price cut ($180)
2004: 4.63m (26.8m) <- $30 May price cut ($150), Slim model Sept
2005: 5.44m (32.3m)
2006: 4.70m (37.1m) <- $20 April price cut ($130)
2007: 3.97m (41.1m) <- Slim 2
2008: 2.50m (43.6m) <- Slim 3
2009: 1.80m (44.4m) <- $30 April price cut ($99)


Note the peak in 2002, and its resurgence in 2005. Lifetime console sales aren't a sprint, they're a marathon. People are getting too worked up over the Wii's current sales, there's no telling how well it may do later in its life.

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It's peaked and now it's dropping as it's no longer the 'cool' party/housewife accessory



Arius Dion said:
I think all consoles have peaked. I think Wii is going to sell more in 2010 than it did in 2009. Which means having another 20m+ year. Which continues this unprecedented streak. Even the PS2 only managed 20m once. Wii's done it twice already and looks to make it three.

Even though PS3 is selling the most is has ever done since the price cut?



I certainly think that this year can be bigger than 2009. It will be tough to beat 2008 though. It may be a bit behind for quarter 1, but the real test will be how it does Q2 and Q3. With much stronger software releases I think it is legitimate to assume that Q2 and Q3 will be stronger with a similar Q4 to 2009.



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Mazty said:
Arius Dion said:
I think all consoles have peaked. I think Wii is going to sell more in 2010 than it did in 2009. Which means having another 20m+ year. Which continues this unprecedented streak. Even the PS2 only managed 20m once. Wii's done it twice already and looks to make it three.

Even though PS3 is selling the most is has ever done since the price cut?


That's pretty easy to accomplish.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.