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Zoombael said:
Yet, there are still people who think it is viable to support "last gen" hardware for years to come.

I've seen a guy on YouTube today that said he hopes PS4 and Xbox One get games until 2026 lol. Some people are clueless.



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Remember when people were saying that the Lockhart model of the XB1SX wouldn't cause games to be delayed? Yeah, I'm starting to have second thoughts about that.

Also, why not just release this on PC first, and delay it for consoles? It's not as if plenty of developers don't massively delay their PC releases, while releasing said game on consoles a year earlier. Case in point, Nioh 2. Launching on PS4 in a few months. As for the PC release, there's not even a date yet.



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Cerebralbore101 said:
Remember when people were saying that the Lockhart model of the XB1SX wouldn't cause games to be delayed? Yeah, I'm starting to have second thoughts about that.

Also, why not just release this on PC first, and delay it for consoles? It's not as if plenty of developers don't massively delay their PC releases, while releasing said game on consoles a year earlier. Case in point, Nioh 2. Launching on PS4 in a few months. As for the PC release, there's not even a date yet.

People go from Console to PC all the time.  GTA V, RDR 2, Monster hunter etc.

I suspect not many would actually go PC to Console. By that I mean buying the PC version. Completing it. Then getting it for console the next year.

So in theory releasing for the PC could hurt sales.  No clue if that is actually true - but it is the first thing I thought.



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Radek said:
Zoombael said:
Yet, there are still people who think it is viable to support "last gen" hardware for years to come.

I've seen a guy on YouTube today that said he hopes PS4 and Xbox One get games until 2026 lol. Some people are clueless.

The Wii did just see its last release with the latest Just Dance. There might still be some smaller games on PS4 and Xbox One for several years, but as for major releases we probably won't see any beyond holiday 2021. 



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Bandorr said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
Remember when people were saying that the Lockhart model of the XB1SX wouldn't cause games to be delayed? Yeah, I'm starting to have second thoughts about that.

Also, why not just release this on PC first, and delay it for consoles? It's not as if plenty of developers don't massively delay their PC releases, while releasing said game on consoles a year earlier. Case in point, Nioh 2. Launching on PS4 in a few months. As for the PC release, there's not even a date yet.

People go from Console to PC all the time.  GTA V, RDR 2, Monster hunter etc.

I suspect not many would actually go PC to Console. By that I mean buying the PC version. Completing it. Then getting it for console the next year.

So in theory releasing for the PC could hurt sales.  No clue if that is actually true - but it is the first thing I thought.

Yeah, that would mean PC versions get delayed in order to force people to doubledip. The thing is though, that CDPR has never been that sort of company. They run GoG for christ's sake! They are currently the most honest western developer. Maybe even the most honest and fair developer period. 



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Cerebralbore101 said:
Bandorr said:

People go from Console to PC all the time.  GTA V, RDR 2, Monster hunter etc.

I suspect not many would actually go PC to Console. By that I mean buying the PC version. Completing it. Then getting it for console the next year.

So in theory releasing for the PC could hurt sales.  No clue if that is actually true - but it is the first thing I thought.

Yeah, that would mean PC versions get delayed in order to force people to doubledip. The thing is though, that CDPR has never been that sort of company. They run GoG for christ's sake! They are currently the most honest western developer. Maybe even the most honest and fair developer period. 

And not many people double dip, on top of that, how on earth does this multiplatform game selling on PC first "hurt sales" exactly?. It's their game and they are selling it on multiple stores, as well as their own (GoG). We see many games releasing on PC first (like indie's and MMO's for some examples) and yet sales aren't "hurt" there. There are people excited for TemTem, but are waiting for a Switch version, and people like me who wait for a PC version of a game down the road. 

Getting people to double dip like Capcom is scummy though. 

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Mr Puggsly said:
HollyGamer said:

I bet if The Witcher 3 was targeted with Switch in mind it will take longer than a year. The Witcher 3 on Switch was a  port rather then using the same assets and same code. They have to almost modified the entire assets to look like 7th gen games.  

Not necessarily. Switch ports often have another studio scaling it back even if launching around the same time.

Switch ports technically use the same engine and assets as well. Just better optimized for Switch.

Recently we've seen that with most recent Wolfenstein, MK 11 and its happening with the Doom Eternal.

And that require more resource on time, money and people. 



Cerebralbore101 said:
Remember when people were saying that the Lockhart model of the XB1SX wouldn't cause games to be delayed? Yeah, I'm starting to have second thoughts about that.

Also, why not just release this on PC first, and delay it for consoles? It's not as if plenty of developers don't massively delay their PC releases, while releasing said game on consoles a year earlier. Case in point, Nioh 2. Launching on PS4 in a few months. As for the PC release, there's not even a date yet.

If Lockhart is just less GPU, why would there be an issue? 1/3 of the GPU power could just be a lower resolution.

Cyberpunk is also heavily reliant on console revenue.



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HollyGamer said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Not necessarily. Switch ports often have another studio scaling it back even if launching around the same time.

Switch ports technically use the same engine and assets as well. Just better optimized for Switch.

Recently we've seen that with most recent Wolfenstein, MK 11 and its happening with the Doom Eternal.

And that require more resource on time, money and people. 

Not necessarily time, Switch version could see a delay. But more money/people? Yeah, no shit.

That's why Switch ports are kinda rare. It does take extra resources to create.



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Zoombael said:
Yet, there are still people who think it is viable to support "last gen" hardware for years to come.

Depends on the project and how ports are done. In theory they could make scaled back 9th gen games for 8th gen specs.

Kinda like current gen games running on Switch.

However, is there even going to be a viable audience using 8th gen consoles in 2026? Not really, maybe just smaller stuff at best.



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