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jason1637 said:
On a serious note Bloomberg really isnt doing anything out of the ordinary. Most candidates have people they paybto go door to door or to different events to get signatures and convince people to vote for them. But in Bloombergs case hes being digital with it and paying people a good wage compared to what other campaigns pay their staff.

Like I said, it's the insidious nature of it.  It gives the appearance of a grass roots level of support when in reality it is people simply lying to their followers and friends.



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jason1637 said:
Last nights debate had the highest viewership of any Democratic debate this cycle. 19.7 million.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483889-nevada-democratic-debate-draws-record-breaking-197-million-viewers

Interesting. So seemingly the open ended state of the race after the first two contests had more people incentivized to tune in. Probably because Super Tuesday comes close and many of them are at a point they want to decide.



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NightlyPoe said:

And what does it have to do with paying someone to be a shill?  For that matter, how is it any different from paying someone for manning a phone line or knocking on doors?

The difference here is the transparency. The people making telephone calls and the people knocking on doors have to say for which reason they phone or knock. The above digital officers seeks a loophole to avoid that.



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The scary thing about Bloomberg is that he might keep running even if he doesn't get the nomination. He'd doom us to another four years of Trump, and essentially be 2020's Ross Perot.



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Cerebralbore101 said:
The scary thing about Bloomberg is that he might keep running even if he doesn't get the nomination. He'd doom us to another four years of Trump, and essentially be 2020's Ross Perot.

Sore loser laws, including simultaneous registration ones, would prevent that for most states.

Or at least I think that'd be the case.



 

 

 

 

 

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haxxiy said:
Cerebralbore101 said:
The scary thing about Bloomberg is that he might keep running even if he doesn't get the nomination. He'd doom us to another four years of Trump, and essentially be 2020's Ross Perot.

Sore loser laws, including simultaneous registration ones, would prevent that for most states.

Or at least I think that'd be the case.

Gary Johnson managed to make it onto 48 states after dropping out in late-December in 2012.  You'd probably have to look at each state's law to figure out the exact details.



Been busy again, had to play a bit of catch up on the debate. I actually thought Bernie did very well. Warren devoured Bloomberg like a ravenous wolf picking off a sickly deer. Then everyone else piled on like a school of piranhas and picked the skeleton clean. I can't imagine this doesn't hurt him in the polls, especially with this as the most watched debate. I don't think it'll affect Nevada much though, since Bloomberg isn't there. Question is how does it affect Super Tuesday, does Biden recover? I hope not.

I have a weird feeling that Steyer will surprise with strong performances in Nevada and South Carolina. He could benefit greatly from a Bloomberg fallout if he invested similarly in Super Tuesday ads right after a couple of good top three performances in NV and SC. Considering how this race has gone so far with so many candidates in the second tier, why not one more?

Warren's performance will probably cause another surge. Let's hope it doesn't hurt Sanders too much in Nevada, but with so much early voting already done (almost 70k, nearly as much as the whole caucus turnout last year!) I think Bernie will still come out on top. If she and Steyer take second and third, and the occasional polls, rumors of carried over strength, and Biden's poor caucus turnout game and retreat to South Carolina gives Pete and Amy a sufficient opening, Biden could end up 5th or 6th place, which in a more diverse state would crush his campaign. Even a third place finish in Nevada would damage Biden at this point. He really needs to turn things around by proving he can win in diverse states.



HylianSwordsman said:
Been busy again, had to play a bit of catch up on the debate. I actually thought Bernie did very well. Warren devoured Bloomberg like a ravenous wolf picking off a sickly deer. Then everyone else piled on like a school of piranhas and picked the skeleton clean. I can't imagine this doesn't hurt him in the polls, especially with this as the most watched debate. I don't think it'll affect Nevada much though, since Bloomberg isn't there. Question is how does it affect Super Tuesday, does Biden recover? I hope not.

I have a weird feeling that Steyer will surprise with strong performances in Nevada and South Carolina. He could benefit greatly from a Bloomberg fallout if he invested similarly in Super Tuesday ads right after a couple of good top three performances in NV and SC. Considering how this race has gone so far with so many candidates in the second tier, why not one more?

Warren's performance will probably cause another surge. Let's hope it doesn't hurt Sanders too much in Nevada, but with so much early voting already done (almost 70k, nearly as much as the whole caucus turnout last year!) I think Bernie will still come out on top. If she and Steyer take second and third, and the occasional polls, rumors of carried over strength, and Biden's poor caucus turnout game and retreat to South Carolina gives Pete and Amy a sufficient opening, Biden could end up 5th or 6th place, which in a more diverse state would crush his campaign. Even a third place finish in Nevada would damage Biden at this point. He really needs to turn things around by proving he can win in diverse states.

I think everyone besides Sanders and Bloomberg need a good showing now in Nevada and/or South Carolina. Sanders seems established as a frontrunner (which also means he needs to win Nevada, or this image is damaged). Bloomberg seems established to be a strong candidate coming Super Tuesday.

Everyone else needs a strong showing before Bloomberg pushes into the race. So far Biden, Warren and Steyer had no strong showing. Steyer and Biden could possibly hope for South Carolina, as their polls are good there, but more shows of strength are obviously better. Warren cannot hope on SC, she needs a good result in Nevada.

Buttigieg and Klobuchar probably stay in the race until Super Tuesday in any case, but so far they are seen as candidates for the "white" states. A good result in Nevada or South Carolina could help a lot.

So in conclusion I see everyone hoping for the second place finish in Nevada, and the polls are close enough between all five. But only one can get it, right?



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Bloomberg's favorability dropped 20 points in the latest Morning Consult poll. Ouch.

So many candidates that could perform decently in Nevada. Very hard to predict how this one will turn out, specially given it's a caucus.



 

 

 

 

 

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