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538 talks about the recent polling upswing for Sanders: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-sanders-is-on-the-upswing/

As most of these polls were conducted before the impeachment process, it will be interesting to see with the next batch of polls, how much the sitting senators (Sanders, Warren, Klobuchar) were hurt by the fact they couldn't campaign in Iowa.



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DarthMetalliCube said:

The funniest thing is, Warren, Biden, and Petey ALL apparently reached out to be on Joe's show and Joe decline b/c he didn't like them lol. 


Is there a source to this? It sounds like a weird decision by Rogan. The vids on those candidates could've been really popular for his channel. I know he doesn't "need them" but still.



DarthMetalliCube said:

He seems to be a fairly moderate anti-establishment liberal, mostly independent of the Democrats, who questions quite a bit of what's considered "the norm" and is willing to hear out all sides and think about all sides of an argument. That's literally it. But oh, he's had on Jordan Peterson, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones, so he's awful! Oh, and I guess he made a few lude jokes/comment in his hundreds of hours of talking (and he's also a comedian mind you), and made a comment of something like trans shouldn't be able to compete with and beat up on biological women in women's sports (which is sensible and true!). But I guess some just love to be outraged and love to stay in their small bubbles..

I just don't get why many establishment Democrats think it's a good idea to demonize and distance themselves from such a sensible liberal voice in media, especially one that has millions of fans and 10s of millions of views. 

The funniest thing is, Warren, Biden, and Petey ALL apparently reached out to be on Joe's show and Joe decline b/c he didn't like them lol. 

I'm glad the Bernie camp reaffirmed/explained the reasoning behind their endorsement but the fact they even felt the need to just reaffirms to me that we live in a tremendously sick, ignorant society. 

More liberals need to speak about issues they deeply believe in, because otherwise, the narrative is controlled by hippies. How the media constantly vilifies certain positions also doesn't help. There are a lot of uncomfortable truths surrounding transgenders, immigration and Islam, and simply pointing out those truths get people riled up, let alone discussing them. Getting sick of lefties finding meaning in being outraged. 

Spike0503 said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

The funniest thing is, Warren, Biden, and Petey ALL apparently reached out to be on Joe's show and Joe decline b/c he didn't like them lol. 


Is there a source to this? It sounds like a weird decision by Rogan. The vids on those candidates could've been really popular for his channel. I know he doesn't "need them" but still.

Ro Jo said so in a recent podcast. Must have felt good to tell them off. 

Also...



LurkerJ said:

More liberals need to speak about issues they deeply believe in, because otherwise, the narrative is controlled by hippies. How the media constantly vilifies certain positions also doesn't help. There are a lot of uncomfortable truths surrounding transgenders, immigration and Islam, and simply pointing out those truths get people riled up, let alone discussing them.

Want to expand on this?



Some of the latest general election polls have been damn depressing. Trump has closed the margins hard came 2020. This reminds me a lot of Trump vs. Clinton at certain stages.

And to highlight how things are skewed, it has been estimated it takes a win of about 2 points for the Democratic candidate to have at least even chances of winning the EV against Trump.



 

 

 

 

 

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LurkerJ said:

Well, about those Bernie Bros... there's a counter for that:

https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/1/24/21080573/hot-girls-for-bernie-sanders-emily-ratajkowski

https://twitter.com/HotGirls4Bernie



Mnementh said:
538 talks about the recent polling upswing for Sanders: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-sanders-is-on-the-upswing/

As most of these polls were conducted before the impeachment process, it will be interesting to see with the next batch of polls, how much the sitting senators (Sanders, Warren, Klobuchar) were hurt by the fact they couldn't campaign in Iowa.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Sanders at 23.4% nationally according to RCP, only 5.3% behind Biden who is at 28.7%. Sanders in first in both Iowa and NH with a sizable lead in NH. He's close behind Biden in Nevada.

Y'all ready for a Sanders presidency!?



 

tsogud said:
Mnementh said:
538 talks about the recent polling upswing for Sanders: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-sanders-is-on-the-upswing/

As most of these polls were conducted before the impeachment process, it will be interesting to see with the next batch of polls, how much the sitting senators (Sanders, Warren, Klobuchar) were hurt by the fact they couldn't campaign in Iowa.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Sanders at 23.4% nationally according to RCP, only 5.3% behind Biden who is at 28.7%. Sanders in first in both Iowa and NH with a sizable lead in NH. He's close behind Biden in Nevada.

Y'all ready for a Sanders presidency!?

Don't be too optimistic. Corporate democrats will find a way, a smear, a doubt, something to stop him. And if Sanders will get the nomination somehow, I have strong doubts they will grant him the party unity, that they demand from him. So, for the moment I remain somewhat sceptic.



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I'll get over my negative feelings if it comes to that, if only because Republicans should never, ever be allowed to get a 6-3 in the Supreme Court.



Mnementh said:
tsogud said:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Sanders at 23.4% nationally according to RCP, only 5.3% behind Biden who is at 28.7%. Sanders in first in both Iowa and NH with a sizable lead in NH. He's close behind Biden in Nevada.

Y'all ready for a Sanders presidency!?

Don't be too optimistic. Corporate democrats will find a way, a smear, a doubt, something to stop him. And if Sanders will get the nomination somehow, I have strong doubts they will grant him the party unity, that they demand from him. So, for the moment I remain somewhat sceptic.

Yeah I'm still out here campaigning like we're in dead last, gotta keep that motivation.

I agree, corporate Dems hate Sanders more than 45. They'll use any underhanded tactic to make sure Sanders doesn't get the nomination or the presidency. But I have faith that the American people will ultimately see through their bs.