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President Trump Sides With Russia Against the United States.

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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Jumpin said:
Can you imagine if Carter said "Damn, the FBI and CIA are REALLY incompetent... I know, Leonid Brezhnev! He'll get the KGB to help us get to the bottom of this Soviet infiltration of the US! He's a man who gets things done." Not just that, but in public with press all around?

Even better, if Kennedy said "Damn, CIA, FBI and DoD are really incompetent... I know Nikita Krushchev! If he says there are no nuclear missiles on Cuba, then there are no nuclear missiles on Cuba. He's the man who gets things done there!

I bolded the most important part.

 

They have said things like that before



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Aeolus451 said:
Machiavellian said:

So let me get this straight.  Because Russia was not successful in hacking the election or changing the results all is good.  We should go out of our way and say, better luck next time and move on. 

 

Trump supporters keep telling us how tough Trump is and how he doesn't take crap from these other nations.  Trump supporters say how he is not like Obama kissing  and kneeling to other nations.  Just a week ago the same people were singing the praise of how tough Trump was during the NATO talks.  Now when Trump has a chance to show everyone how tough he is, he clowns himself on the national stage.  The sad partus that he could have held his ground but in Trump classic fashion he walked back his words reading from some script he couldn't even get right.  Everyday Trump clowns his supporters as you try to defend everything he does as if he uincapable of making a mistake.  

Because they weren't successful by any metric and we do the same thing to other countries even to allies, it's actually not a big deal. We adjust our security measures to close up holes and arrest some operatives then move on. It's not like we're gonna go to war with Russia or put him on trial. 

He's perfect in why Trump supporters voted for him which is not because he's the perfect conventional politician or that he seems like a good moral example to everyone. Libs don't get it. They bitch that he doesn't act like a politician but that's one of the reasons why people voted for him. 

Trump likes a mix of tough talk and flattery in negotiations and getting people to do what he wants. What matters is his actions and policies.

If a bank robber was unsuccessful in robbing a bank, do the law care or not.  If you helped someone to rob a bank in any way but the robbers botched the job does the law care or not.  The intent to do the job and the will to follow through is enough for any government to go after the other when being attack.  Just because something failed does not resolve the act.  I am not even sure why you are trying to make that case it does not hold water. 

Yes, every nation does something behind the scenes as far as espionage.  It's the ones that get caught that have to pay the price.  Not knowing why they are doing what they are doing and just being dismissive of it since it was a candidate you support does not change the fact that it was done nor does it mean we as a nation should just accept it because "Everybody does it".  That line of thinking has never held water on any topic and it will not hold water on this one either.  It's what I would expect my 10 year old son to tell me if caught smoking pot.

I love the part where everyone who did not vote for Trump has to be a lib.  Everyone who did not vote for Trump just do not get it.  The reason people bitch that he doesn't act like a politician because he took on a job where you need to be a politician.  Everyone he meets, everyone he interacts with from Congress to his own people to other governments are politicians.  You hired someone who has to do a job where he has no clue how to operate and then you wonder why he isn't successful.  The same people he berates today is the same people he need to negotiate with tomorrow.  Just like with the Tariffs, his administration believe other nations would not reciprocate because they fear the US or some other stupid ideal in their head.  They continue to run to one blunder to another and you seem to cheer him on as if this makes a successful president.  

So tell me how has Trump tough talks made any deal actually happen.  How has he changed congress to do anything that they did not approve of.  Did he get that healthcare he promised.  Where is the wall.  Did Mexico sign that check yet.  Has Republican moved on any of the issues they thought was stupid.  How is NAFTA coming along.  What about that naive notion that other nations would not reciprocate on the tariffs.  How is kissing NK ass bringing those Nukes to the table.  Lol, Tough talk means nothing and kissing ass is still kissing ass. Trump still has not figured it out what moves politicians because he still believe he is a reality TV star.  

Now again we are at another blunder, where he made you all look stupid for first supporting the dumb remark he made then walking it back after you built your defense of it.  Now you do not know what to support or defend with the next blunder I am sure is coming soon.  You probably will not have to worry about this one in the news long because true to form, Trump has a pocket full of them ready to move the needle to something else.

Last edited by Machiavellian - on 18 July 2018

JRPGfan said:
Locknuts said:
I've never seen Donald Trump look like such a bitch. Putin is an absolute boss.

Or Trump just owes alot of money to russians? and maybe they have stuff on him, so hes their bitch?
Hard to be "tough" when your in a position of weakness.

It has nothing to do with putin being a absolute boss, of a man.... even if yeah hes a ex KGB agent, so ofc the guy has the upperhand vs trump.

Actually that is what makes Putin a boss.  Its like a good mob boss. He compromised Trump a long time ago.  KGB agents do stuff like this all the time.  Once you have someone compromised then they can sleep until they get into a position of power to be useful.  I am not sure if Putin figured Trump would win the election but since he did, those long term plans can now come to fruition.  Many of top intelligence agency people have recognize Putin capability and its one of the reason why they worried that Trump was not ready.

Its like the NK meeting.  You can tell Trump came into it like its a frat meeting while everyone else was looking at it in a totally different light.  Meeting Putin alone, then hashing out some mystical trade agreement and coming on stage and Putin showing the world how he has Trump by the balls was a show of force.  Politically, it was a master class presentation and it was so cringe worthy that any US citizen now knows there is a difference between talking tough and being tough.



Madword said:
Trump is all over the place, in a few days he'll probably say something negative about Russia... the guys goes from one extreme to the other. He's an idiot.

Get rid of this clown!

#Make America proud again 2020 (OR SOONER!!)



Aeolus451 said:
CosmicSex said:

Not sure if you have to be lib to be an American but thats were we are at now isn't it.  If you respect America of don't think we should be run by Russia, we are beating a dead horse.  We we get a report detailing how Russian's hacked into the companies supplying software to election machines and state election boards, on top to the Social media assault (which might be nonsense as on voting machine company admitted today that it had Remote Access build into the Talley machines), what we supposed to do?  Love Trump harder?  Seriously, what are they beating?  Why should ANYONE regardless of political affiliation, support Russia hacking our election system?  Why shouldn't we do anything about it.  

If you are from or supporting Russia, I can see how you would just want everyone to shut the hell up and love Trump over our country, and ourselves, but if you are not you have some explaining to do lol.  Even the GOP get this so I know you aren't representing them...

All of the major countries try to influence each other's elections and politics. This is nothing new.

 Russia didn't successfully hack the election or change the results. Trump did not collude with Russia. The US is not being controlled by Russia. This is just conspiracy nonsense and a convenient political club to hit Trump with.

Russia actually did hack into the election.  Maybe they changed results. Maybe they didn't.  But we are not gonna get anywhere if you give them a pass on hacking in the first place.  

Why are you trying to protect them.  Obviously you aren't American.   The average American believes in defending America.  What country do you live in?



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RobertoPallas said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Even better, if Kennedy said "Damn, CIA, FBI and DoD are really incompetent... I know Nikita Krushchev! If he says there are no nuclear missiles on Cuba, then there are no nuclear missiles on Cuba. He's the man who gets things done there!

I bolded the most important part.

 

They have said things like that before

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So apparently not ^^



Ucouldntbemorewrong said:
Madword said:
Trump is all over the place, in a few days he'll probably say something negative about Russia... the guys goes from one extreme to the other. He's an idiot.

Get rid of this clown!

#Make America proud again 2020 (OR SOONER!!)

OMG I was totally right, Trump back peddling like no tomorrow. Looks like I have trump pretty much understood and Im not even American.



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RobertoPallas said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

Even better, if Kennedy said "Damn, CIA, FBI and DoD are really incompetent... I know Nikita Krushchev! If he says there are no nuclear missiles on Cuba, then there are no nuclear missiles on Cuba. He's the man who gets things done there!

I bolded the most important part.

 

They have said things like that before

No, the important part is asking Russia for help. That's the core of the comparison.



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End of the day what we saw on stage was the POTUS standing strong and next to him was Trump wonder how long it is until they introduce mandatory Russian lessons in US schools.



Jumpin said:
RobertoPallas said:

I bolded the most important part.

 

They have said things like that before

No, the important part is asking Russia for help. That's the core of the comparison.

That is the funny and sad part.  So Trump and Putin go into a private meeting where they hash out this plan where Russia will help the US find these nefarious people who hacked the US.  Putin throw out a list of demands for this help which of course he knows none of the US agencies will even consider accepting it.  As we know the plan with this is that once nothing is done, Putin and Trump will start to make a case that everything is bogus because Mueller did not follow through with Putin terms.  Putin will let Trump spearhead this plan and laugh all the way to the bank as he cut him another check for getting played.  This whole ploy is about as obvious as it comes and in the next few weeks we should start seeing tweets from Trump following along right on script.