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Hey guys and gals, this is my first thread on VGchartz. It's a bit of a long read in which I make guesstimates about what the big N still has in store for us after Spring 2016, with a focus on what's still coming for WiiU. Please feel free to share your thoughts and ideas!

First off let’s take a look at Nintendo’s main internal development studios in Japan: the Nintendo EAD studios! There are 7 EAD studios, 5 of them are located in Kyoto, 2 of them in Tokyo. We will take a closer look at all 7 of these studios.

EAD 1

Developer Latest game Release date Other games and projects Next game
Kyoto EAD 1 Mario Kart 8 May 2014 Mario Kart series

 

Nintendogs series

(?) New Nintendogs

What are they working on?

EAD 1 has been working on updating the Mario Kart 8 experience after the original game was released in May 2014. The latest DLC pack was released not so long ago, about a year after the release of the original game. No further DLC packs have been announced.

Since I can’t imagine the whole Mario Kart team having worked on the DLC packs for a year, production of the next Mario Kart must be at least a year underway by now. The new Mario Kart will release on NX, as Nintendo is in the habit of releasing 1 Mario Kart per system.

EAD 1’s second team, led by producer Hideki Konno (who is also the producer for Mario Kart) and director Yasuyuki Oyagi, is most likely working on the next Nintendogs, which will probably be released together with Nintendo’s next handheld – whether that be the rumored “Fusion” project or not.

 

What does this mean for WiiU?

EAD 1 is probably not actively producing a WiiU game. A small team may still be working on Mario Kart 8 updates, but since the game is more than a year old right now, chances are slim that we will see more big content updates (like 200cc). A small team may still be working on DLC in collaboration with studios in charge of other Nintendo IPs, but also here chances are slim. If more Mario Kart 8 DLC was incoming, E3 would have been the perfect time to announce it.

EAD 2

Developer Latest game Release date Other games and projects Next game
Kyoto EAD 2 Splatoon May 2015 Wii Sports series

 

Nintendo Land

Animal Crossing series

Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer

What are they working on?

EAD 2 has been working on two Animal Crossing spin offs that will be released in 2015: Happy Home Designer and Amiibo Festival. These games reuse assets from New Leaf (released in 2012) and Plaza (released in 2013).

Although both games are directed by Aya Kyogoku, it is most likely that only a small part of the Animal Crossing team is working on Happy Home Designer and a small part of the “party games team” (Nintendo Land, Wii Sports) is working on Amiibo Festival, meaning that the remaining members of both teams have most likely been working on the next major installments in the Animal Crossing and Wii Sports series since 2013.

While the next Animal Crossing will probably be a cross gen game (on WiiU and on NX), the new Wii Sports game will be a launch game for NX.

The third team working at EAD 2 just finished Splatoon and will continue supporting that game for a while, while most likely starting to work on the blueprints forSplatoon 2 for NX.

 

What does this mean for WiiU?

We may still see a full-fledged Animal Crossing game after Spring 2016 on WiiU after the release of Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival in the Fall of 2015. The other two teams will not be making new games for WiiU. The team behind Wii Sports and Nintendo Land is most likely making a release game for NX (one that shows of the new system’s capabilities) and the Splatoon team will have started working on Splatoon 2 for NX. A small part of the Splatoon team will create DLC for Splatoon until May 2016.

EAD 3

Developer Latest game Release date Other games and projects Next game
Kyoto EAD 3 The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds November 2013 The Legend of Zelda series The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes

What are they working on?

EAD 3 has been working on The Legend of Zelda for WiiU since 2013. No release date has been announced, but it will most likely release in 2016 for WiiU (and some say for NX as well).

A small team is working on Tri Force Heroes for the Nintendo 3DS, which reuses a lot of assets from A Link Between Worlds, and which is set to release later in 2015.

While it is possible that another spin-off is in the works, it is most likely that most of EAD 3’s work force is working on the next big Zelda game and that no other projects are in the works.

 

What does this mean for WiiU?

The next big Legend of Zelda game will be on WiiU. Whether it will be exclusively on WiiU or whether it will be a cross-gen game like Twilight Princess was, remains to be seen. No other games (unless a possible Zelda spin-off) will be produced for WiiU by EAD 3.

EAD 4

Developer Latest game Release date Other games and projects Next game
Kyoto EAD 4 Pikmin 3 July 2013 Pikmin series

 

New Super Mario Bros series

Super Mario Maker

What are they working on?

EAD 4’s New Super Mario Bros team has been working on Super Mario Maker since 2013 at the latest. The game will release in September for WiiU. While it is unlikely that the New Super Mario Bros team was working on anything but Super Mario Maker during its development, work on a New Super Mario Bros game for NX may have started by now.

A smaller team may have started working on another Maker game or DLC for Super Mario Maker. Looking at internal assets, most likely candidate would be Yoshi’s Island Maker, which may or may not be (standalone) DLC for Super Mario Maker on WiiU.

The Pikmin team has probably started working on the next Pikmin, which will most likely not release on WiiU, but on NX.

What does this mean for WiiU?

Super Mario Maker will release in September for WiiU. Depending on its success DLC may still be created for the WiiU game, most likely incorporating Yoshi. No new game from EAD 4 will be coming to WiiU after that.

EAD 5

Developer Latest game Release date Other games and projects Next game
Kyoto EAD 5 Steel Diver Sub Wars February 2014 Steel Diver series

 

Wii Fit series

Star Fox Zero

What are they working on?

EAD 5 is currently working on Star Fox Zero, Project Guard and Project Giant Robot, which are all projects helmed by Shigeru Miyamoto and are supposed to be released by the end of 2015.

EAD 5 has a history of co-developing games with other developers/developing groups. This isn’t different for Star Fox Zero, as it has been announced during E3 that Platinum games (of Bayonetta fame) is co-developing the title.

EAD 5 has become Miyamoto’s playground in the last few years (he also created the original Steel Diver which is being handled by the studio) and is more of an experimental development group.

On the other hand, EAD 5 also works on the Wii Fit Series, and most likely it has begun working on Wii Fit for NX as well. Will the next Wii Fit be related to Nintendo’s upcoming Quality of Life project? Only time can tell.

What does this mean for WiiU?

With three games still slated for release on WiiU by the end of 2015, chances are slim we will see any of EAD 5’s work on WiiU after those games are released.

TOKYO EAD 1

Developer Latest game Release date Other games and projects Next game
Tokyo EAD 1 The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask 3D February 2015 Super Mario Galaxy

 

The Legend of Zelda remakes

Nintendo (3)DS guide

(?) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess remake

 

What are they working on?

Tokyo EAD 1 once developed Super Mario Galaxy, but that was in 2007. Afterwards they haven’t produced a single big title anymore, which means that they have been working on the next big Mario since 2007 or that they have been demoted.

Since Miyamoto has been working more closely with EAD 5 in Kyoto ever since the release of Super Mario Galaxy, and Tokyo EAD 2 has developed Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario 3D Land and Super Mario 3D World in the meanwhile, the latter seems more likely.

Tokyo EAD 1 has mostly been working together with external developer Grezzo to remake several The Legend of Zelda games for Nintendo 3DS (Occarina of Time 3D, Four Swords Anniversary Edition and Majora’s Mask 3D).

They have also created several guides for Nintendo DS and 3DS (including the Louvre Guide).

Most likely they just started working together with Grezzo on another The Legend of Zelda remake, and the most likely contenders in that respect are: Twilight Princess HD (for WiiU) and Four Swords Adventures Anniversary (for New 3DS and WiiU). While the latter may seem the most feasible for the studio, fans have really been dreaming of a Twilight Princess remake ever since the tech demo shown at E3 2012. With some help of Kyoto EAD 3, it is not unlikely that Tokyo EAD1 is working on making this dream a reality together with Grezzo.

What does this mean for WiiU?

Although Tokyo EAD 1 has not made a single WiiU game (apart from the app: WiiU Panorama view), it is not impossible that they are working on a Twilight Princess HD remake together with Kyoto EAD 3 and Grezzo exclusively for WiiU. The exclusivity of this game may help soften the blow for the fact that the next big Zelda will not come exclusively to WiiU, but will be a cross-gen game. A September 2016 release seems to be possible.

The other possibility is that they are working on Four Swords Adventures Anniversary for News 3DS (and maybe) WiiU.

There’s a chance we may see some of Tokyo EAD 1’s work on WiiU, but this may be more wishful thinking than anything else.

TOKYO EAD 2

Developer Latest game Release date Other games and projects Next game
Tokyo EAD 2 Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker January 2015 Super Mario Galaxy 2

 

Super Mario 3D series

NES Remix

(?) SNES Remix

What are they working on?

Tokyo EAD 2 has been in charge of Mario’s 3D outings ever since Super Mario Galaxy 2. They have made some smaller side games, like Captain Toad: Treasure tracker and the NES Remix games, but their main focus is on 3D Mario.

Their next big game will most likely be the next big 3D Mario and the release of that game will most likely coincide with the launch of NX.

It may be Super Mario Galaxy 3, but it may be something entirely new as well. Time will tell. There’s a chance that before the next big Mario we will see something smaller from them, like SNES Remix or something similar though.

What does this mean for WiiU?

We may see a smaller project from Tokyo EAD 2 still come to fruition on WiiU (like SNES Remix), but their next big 3D Mario game will most likely be skipping WiiU for NX. Although, it isn’t impossible that we may still see Super Mario 3D World 2 orSuper Mario Sunshine HD before that happens on WiiU, we should not get our hopes up too much. Just like with Tokyo EAD 1 this may mostly be wishful thinking.

All in all, it doesn’t seem likely that we will be seeing many more WiiU games from the EAD studios after Spring 2016. The Legend of Zelda will still apear on WiiU, and maybe Animal Crossing will as well, but apart from those two big games, the EAD studios will have shifted their focus to the next generation of Nintendo consoles. We may still get an HD remake or two and a smaller game or two as well, but that’s about it.

But… Do not fear yet, Nintendo fans, because next time we will be taking a look at what Nintendo’s SPD studios are most likely working on. So, as Marie and Callie would say: until then, stay fresh!

(Note: I originally wrote this bit for my blog (https://makeaccountlater.wordpress.com/2015/06/30/the-future-of-nintendo-whats-to-come-after-spring-2016-1/), but wanted to hear what you have to say on it)



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I need a metroid game from retro studios next year, either 2D or 3D, is probably not in the prime series, and i want a paper mario Wii U, if we get that im satisfied



This is pretty well done, MakeAccountLater.

I, for one, hope that Nintendo are making more games for the Wii U and not already calling it a day. Also, I hope that they learned that with solid advertising that a new IP, like Splatoon, can have strong sales.



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97alexk said:

I need a metroid game from retro studios next year, either 2D or 3D, is probably not in the prime series, and i want a paper mario Wii U, if we get that im satisfied

A 2D Metroid game from Retro doesn't seem very likely, sadly enough. 2D Metroid is mostly handled by SPD 1 because of Sakomoto's presence, while the relationship with Retro is handled by SPD 3. On the other hand, Sakomoto is division leader now, so... I don't know: you can always hope. If Retro were to make another Metroid game it would probably be a Prime game, but most likely the next Prime will be made by Next Level Games and they're still finishing up that Federation Force game.

With regards to Paper Mario, that one is handled by SPD 3 and Intelligent Systems. Intelligent Systems has been very bussy, so I'm not sure they have enough people left to finish a Paper Mario game for WiiU. I'm hoping to see this one as well, as much as you are, but I'm doubtful it will happen.



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amp316 said:
This is pretty well done, MakeAccountLater.

I, for one, hope that Nintendo are making more games for the Wii U and not already calling it a day. Also, I hope that they learned that with solid advertising that a new IP, like Splatoon, can have strong sales.

Thanks a lot!

I hear you. I think that they were themselves probably surprised by Splatoon's enormous success. Indeed, the power of advertising, but I think word of mouth is proving to be important on this one as well. It really is a fun game, and I've been telling my friends how fun it is. Something which I didn't even bother to do with Pikmin 3 and Bayonetta 2 (which are awesome games, nontheless).



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MakeAccountLater said:
97alexk said:

I need a metroid game from retro studios next year, either 2D or 3D, is probably not in the prime series, and i want a paper mario Wii U, if we get that im satisfied

A 2D Metroid game from Retro doesn't seem very likely, sadly enough. 2D Metroid is mostly handled by SPD 1 because of Sakomoto's presence, while the relationship with Retro is handled by SPD 3. On the other hand, Sakomoto is division leader now, so... I don't know: you can always hope. If Retro were to make another Metroid game it would probably be a Prime game, but most likely the next Prime will be made by Next Level Games and they're still finishing up that Federation Force game.

With regards to Paper Mario, that one is handled by SPD 3 and Intelligent Systems. Intelligent Systems has been very bussy, so I'm not sure they have enough people left to finish a Paper Mario game for WiiU. I'm hoping to see this one as well, as much as you are, but I'm doubtful it will happen.

But what are we gonna have for Wii U in 2016 and 2017?



MakeAccountLater said:
amp316 said:
This is pretty well done, MakeAccountLater.

I, for one, hope that Nintendo are making more games for the Wii U and not already calling it a day. Also, I hope that they learned that with solid advertising that a new IP, like Splatoon, can have strong sales.

Thanks a lot!

I hear you. I think that they were themselves probably surprised by Splatoon's enormous success. Indeed, the power of advertising, but I think word of mouth is proving to be important on this one as well. It really is a fun game, and I've been telling my friends how fun it is. Something which I didn't even bother to do with Pikmin 3 and Bayonetta 2 (which are awesome games, nontheless).

I love Bayonetta 2.  Much better than Hyrule Warrioes.  It's a shame that Hyrule Warriors smashed it in sales since it takes place in the Zelda universe.



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amp316 said:
MakeAccountLater said:

Thanks a lot!

I hear you. I think that they were themselves probably surprised by Splatoon's enormous success. Indeed, the power of advertising, but I think word of mouth is proving to be important on this one as well. It really is a fun game, and I've been telling my friends how fun it is. Something which I didn't even bother to do with Pikmin 3 and Bayonetta 2 (which are awesome games, nontheless).

I love Bayonetta 2.  Much better than Hyrule Warrioes.  It's a shame that Hyrule Warriors smashed it in sales since it takes place in the Zelda universe.

Ha, I hear you once again, but apparently it is harder to sell a sexy witch that has guns on her heels than octupi squirting ink, or a guy in a green leotard that gets help from fairies. What a world we live in!



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Hard to predict what games will still get Wii U/3DS and what NX, but we will have NX revealing after spring 2016. and some big games revealeds.



Nice thread.

I disagree with some of your predictions though. Then again I'm not too much into going far with predictions, so I'm not even thinking about what each studio is probably doing and stuff. In the end, I don't think there's any chance we'll see a Twilight Princess HD on the Wii U at this point.

Also, I'm pretty sure Platinum Games completely took over development for either Project Giant Robot or Project Guard... or both.