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Uncharted 3 Vs Gears of War 3

Uncharted 3 676 65.19%
 
Gears Of War 3 361 34.81%
 
Total:1,037
Doobie_wop said:
d21lewis said:
Doobie_wop said:

Uncharted 2 is a better shooter than Gears of War 2. Gears of War 1 was a better shooter than Uncharted 1. I'm confident in saying that Uncharted 3 will be a better shooter than Gears 3. Judging by the gameplay trailers, Gears 3 seems to be more Gears, which got boring towards the end of my second playthrough of Gears 2. Unless they can dramatically tighten up the gameplay, not make every enemy soak up as much bullets as an enemy from Uncharted 1 and actually add some versatility to the gameplay, then I'm confident in my statement. 

The way Drake manouvers between cover, runs, uses melee, uses stealth, uses platforming and uses the weapons, is near perfection as third person shooter. I played through it the first time by using a mixture of platforming, stealth and standard shooting, the second time I stried to strictly stick to using stealth and platforming and the third time I just went insane and used grenades, launchers and machine guns like a crazy person, without worrying about the loss of ammunition. All three times was fun and all three brought different challenges.

Gears 2 is awesome, but I felt like it's way to similar to Gears 1, which was amazing for a game made in 2006. The running, while looking cool, isn't useful at all. The cover mechanics are clumsy, the characters (their size is probably the reason) are too slow in their movement, the melee is repititive, the shooting is pretty good and the enemies soak up way too much damage without trying to out smart you. 

I'll be buying Gears of War 3 at release, but unless it fixes up the character dialogue, updates the cover and shooter mechanic, makes the story somewhat interesting and makes it look as good as Uncharted 2 (both in terms of art and technical prowess), then it will not be close to being my Game of the Year. That battle will be fought between Uncharted 3, Skyrim, Yakuza 4, Infamous 2 and the inevitable Alan wake 2.


Science would tell you that someone's head can only explode once.  After that, they would be headless with no head left to explode.  I'm here to tell you that science is stupid.  My head exploded at least five times while reading that post.  I'm typing this reply withot a head (that's why I just mispelled "without", btw), eyes, or lips.

I don't think anything I said was wrong. Gears 2 was a linear shooter that got me to unload nearly a whole clip into big bad guys using guns that were fairly similar to each other, then the cover mechanics and movements were slow and the melee combat was repititive. In comparison, Uncharted 2 was also a linear shooter that was fluid in it's movement and intereactions with the environment, the melee didn't get repititive, I didn't have to unload a whole clip into an enemy to kill him, the stealth mechanics changed the pacing to the gameplay and the platforming allowed me to move and shoot between areas as I felt fit. Gears 2 feels old now, it's gameplay, presentation and action scenes have been outclassed by other games like Vanquish and Uncharted 2. I really liked Gears 2, but I liked the first Gears more because of how fresh and new it was at the time and I don't think just 'more Gears' will satisfy me enough for the third game.

Problem officer?


No offense, but as someone who plays this game every night, I have no idea what you're talking about.

What guns are similar to each other?

Movement is supposed to be slow. As much as people would like to dash around like a mad man, that's not what the game is about.

How is the melee repetitive?

I've played Vanquish. It's not my cup of tea. Quit preaching your opinions on other games as if they were facts.

I'm particularly baffled at the similar weapons comment. The only weapons that are similar are the lancer and hammerburst and that's just because they fire automatic rounds.



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Difficult choice... but I'll go for Gears 3, only by a few pixels...

Uncharted series looks great... but it lacks the "WAOUWW" effect of the Gears (Blood explosions, incredible texture quality...).

GOW3 shall be probably more spectacular...but I'll get both anyway.



 

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themanwithnoname said:
Doobie_wop said:
d21lewis said:
Doobie_wop said:

Uncharted 2 is a better shooter than Gears of War 2. Gears of War 1 was a better shooter than Uncharted 1. I'm confident in saying that Uncharted 3 will be a better shooter than Gears 3. Judging by the gameplay trailers, Gears 3 seems to be more Gears, which got boring towards the end of my second playthrough of Gears 2. Unless they can dramatically tighten up the gameplay, not make every enemy soak up as much bullets as an enemy from Uncharted 1 and actually add some versatility to the gameplay, then I'm confident in my statement. 

The way Drake manouvers between cover, runs, uses melee, uses stealth, uses platforming and uses the weapons, is near perfection as third person shooter. I played through it the first time by using a mixture of platforming, stealth and standard shooting, the second time I stried to strictly stick to using stealth and platforming and the third time I just went insane and used grenades, launchers and machine guns like a crazy person, without worrying about the loss of ammunition. All three times was fun and all three brought different challenges.

Gears 2 is awesome, but I felt like it's way to similar to Gears 1, which was amazing for a game made in 2006. The running, while looking cool, isn't useful at all. The cover mechanics are clumsy, the characters (their size is probably the reason) are too slow in their movement, the melee is repititive, the shooting is pretty good and the enemies soak up way too much damage without trying to out smart you. 

I'll be buying Gears of War 3 at release, but unless it fixes up the character dialogue, updates the cover and shooter mechanic, makes the story somewhat interesting and makes it look as good as Uncharted 2 (both in terms of art and technical prowess), then it will not be close to being my Game of the Year. That battle will be fought between Uncharted 3, Skyrim, Yakuza 4, Infamous 2 and the inevitable Alan wake 2.


Science would tell you that someone's head can only explode once.  After that, they would be headless with no head left to explode.  I'm here to tell you that science is stupid.  My head exploded at least five times while reading that post.  I'm typing this reply withot a head (that's why I just mispelled "without", btw), eyes, or lips.

I don't think anything I said was wrong. Gears 2 was a linear shooter that got me to unload nearly a whole clip into big bad guys using guns that were fairly similar to each other, then the cover mechanics and movements were slow and the melee combat was repititive. In comparison, Uncharted 2 was also a linear shooter that was fluid in it's movement and intereactions with the environment, the melee didn't get repititive, I didn't have to unload a whole clip into an enemy to kill him, the stealth mechanics changed the pacing to the gameplay and the platforming allowed me to move and shoot between areas as I felt fit. Gears 2 feels old now, it's gameplay, presentation and action scenes have been outclassed by other games like Vanquish and Uncharted 2. I really liked Gears 2, but I liked the first Gears more because of how fresh and new it was at the time and I don't think just 'more Gears' will satisfy me enough for the third game.

Problem officer?


No offense, but as someone who plays this game every night, I have no idea what you're talking about.

What guns are similar to each other?

Movement is supposed to be slow. As much as people would like to dash around like a mad man, that's not what the game is about.

How is the melee repetitive?

I've played Vanquish. It's not my cup of tea. Quit preaching your opinions on other games as if they were facts.

I'm particularly baffled at the similar weapons comment. The only weapons that are similar are the lancer and hammerburst and that's just because they fire automatic rounds.

I'm not preaching them as facts, if I make the post, then that post is based on my opinion. The guns are boring to use and shoot, the enemies take way too much damage, the covermechanics are clunky, the bull run is hopeless, the melee involves me sawing a guy in half with my lancer for the hundredth time, there is barely any versatility to the combat and when you've essentially played the same game nearly three times, it does get a tad boring.

The argument is which game do you think will be better and I'm listing the reasons why I found Uncharted 2 to be a better shooter than Gears of War 2 and how I hope Epic will fix many of the games problems with Gears 3. 

This is coming from a really big fan of the Gears 1 & 2, but I'm also a consumer who likes to get the best out of their $80 products, which will eventually be Gears of War 3.



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Single player wise its going to be a toss up imo. I can lean towards Uncharted 3 but everytime I see new information about Gears 3 is just keep thinking its going to be better and better. Its a close battle imo.

MP wise Gears will win hands down. Uncharted 2's MP was lackluster and pretty boring imo. Guns were all the same and the mechanics are average.

Overall I take Gears 3 as it will provide the most replay value for me and graphically they will be about the same. Don't believe me? Watch this new vid from IGN.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/02/28/gears-of-war-3-mp-beta-interview



Doobie_wop said:
themanwithnoname said:
Doobie_wop said:
d21lewis said:
Doobie_wop said:

Uncharted 2 is a better shooter than Gears of War 2. Gears of War 1 was a better shooter than Uncharted 1. I'm confident in saying that Uncharted 3 will be a better shooter than Gears 3. Judging by the gameplay trailers, Gears 3 seems to be more Gears, which got boring towards the end of my second playthrough of Gears 2. Unless they can dramatically tighten up the gameplay, not make every enemy soak up as much bullets as an enemy from Uncharted 1 and actually add some versatility to the gameplay, then I'm confident in my statement. 

The way Drake manouvers between cover, runs, uses melee, uses stealth, uses platforming and uses the weapons, is near perfection as third person shooter. I played through it the first time by using a mixture of platforming, stealth and standard shooting, the second time I stried to strictly stick to using stealth and platforming and the third time I just went insane and used grenades, launchers and machine guns like a crazy person, without worrying about the loss of ammunition. All three times was fun and all three brought different challenges.

Gears 2 is awesome, but I felt like it's way to similar to Gears 1, which was amazing for a game made in 2006. The running, while looking cool, isn't useful at all. The cover mechanics are clumsy, the characters (their size is probably the reason) are too slow in their movement, the melee is repititive, the shooting is pretty good and the enemies soak up way too much damage without trying to out smart you. 

I'll be buying Gears of War 3 at release, but unless it fixes up the character dialogue, updates the cover and shooter mechanic, makes the story somewhat interesting and makes it look as good as Uncharted 2 (both in terms of art and technical prowess), then it will not be close to being my Game of the Year. That battle will be fought between Uncharted 3, Skyrim, Yakuza 4, Infamous 2 and the inevitable Alan wake 2.


Science would tell you that someone's head can only explode once.  After that, they would be headless with no head left to explode.  I'm here to tell you that science is stupid.  My head exploded at least five times while reading that post.  I'm typing this reply withot a head (that's why I just mispelled "without", btw), eyes, or lips.

I don't think anything I said was wrong. Gears 2 was a linear shooter that got me to unload nearly a whole clip into big bad guys using guns that were fairly similar to each other, then the cover mechanics and movements were slow and the melee combat was repititive. In comparison, Uncharted 2 was also a linear shooter that was fluid in it's movement and intereactions with the environment, the melee didn't get repititive, I didn't have to unload a whole clip into an enemy to kill him, the stealth mechanics changed the pacing to the gameplay and the platforming allowed me to move and shoot between areas as I felt fit. Gears 2 feels old now, it's gameplay, presentation and action scenes have been outclassed by other games like Vanquish and Uncharted 2. I really liked Gears 2, but I liked the first Gears more because of how fresh and new it was at the time and I don't think just 'more Gears' will satisfy me enough for the third game.

Problem officer?


No offense, but as someone who plays this game every night, I have no idea what you're talking about.

What guns are similar to each other?

Movement is supposed to be slow. As much as people would like to dash around like a mad man, that's not what the game is about.

How is the melee repetitive?

I've played Vanquish. It's not my cup of tea. Quit preaching your opinions on other games as if they were facts.

I'm particularly baffled at the similar weapons comment. The only weapons that are similar are the lancer and hammerburst and that's just because they fire automatic rounds.

I'm not preaching them as facts, if I make the post, then that post is based on my opinion. The guns are boring to use and shoot, the enemies take way too much damage, the covermechanics are clunky, the bull run is hopeless, the melee involves me sawing a guy in half with my lancer for the hundredth time, there is barely any versatility to the combat and when you've essentially played the same game nearly three times, it does get a tad boring.

The argument is which game do you think will be better and I'm listing the reasons why I found Uncharted 2 to be a better shooter than Gears of War 2 and how I hope Epic will fix many of the games problems with Gears 3. 

This is coming from a really big fan of the Gears 1 & 2, but I'm also a consumer who likes to get the best out of their $80 products, which will eventually be Gears of War 3.

How can the cover mechanics be clunky when Uncharted obviously takes their inspiration from Gears but doesn't do it as well? Gears has the best cover mechanics and easiest controls in the TPS genre.



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Doobie_wop said:
themanwithnoname said:
Doobie_wop said:
d21lewis said:
Doobie_wop said:

Uncharted 2 is a better shooter than Gears of War 2. Gears of War 1 was a better shooter than Uncharted 1. I'm confident in saying that Uncharted 3 will be a better shooter than Gears 3. Judging by the gameplay trailers, Gears 3 seems to be more Gears, which got boring towards the end of my second playthrough of Gears 2. Unless they can dramatically tighten up the gameplay, not make every enemy soak up as much bullets as an enemy from Uncharted 1 and actually add some versatility to the gameplay, then I'm confident in my statement. 

The way Drake manouvers between cover, runs, uses melee, uses stealth, uses platforming and uses the weapons, is near perfection as third person shooter. I played through it the first time by using a mixture of platforming, stealth and standard shooting, the second time I stried to strictly stick to using stealth and platforming and the third time I just went insane and used grenades, launchers and machine guns like a crazy person, without worrying about the loss of ammunition. All three times was fun and all three brought different challenges.

Gears 2 is awesome, but I felt like it's way to similar to Gears 1, which was amazing for a game made in 2006. The running, while looking cool, isn't useful at all. The cover mechanics are clumsy, the characters (their size is probably the reason) are too slow in their movement, the melee is repititive, the shooting is pretty good and the enemies soak up way too much damage without trying to out smart you. 

I'll be buying Gears of War 3 at release, but unless it fixes up the character dialogue, updates the cover and shooter mechanic, makes the story somewhat interesting and makes it look as good as Uncharted 2 (both in terms of art and technical prowess), then it will not be close to being my Game of the Year. That battle will be fought between Uncharted 3, Skyrim, Yakuza 4, Infamous 2 and the inevitable Alan wake 2.


Science would tell you that someone's head can only explode once.  After that, they would be headless with no head left to explode.  I'm here to tell you that science is stupid.  My head exploded at least five times while reading that post.  I'm typing this reply withot a head (that's why I just mispelled "without", btw), eyes, or lips.

I don't think anything I said was wrong. Gears 2 was a linear shooter that got me to unload nearly a whole clip into big bad guys using guns that were fairly similar to each other, then the cover mechanics and movements were slow and the melee combat was repititive. In comparison, Uncharted 2 was also a linear shooter that was fluid in it's movement and intereactions with the environment, the melee didn't get repititive, I didn't have to unload a whole clip into an enemy to kill him, the stealth mechanics changed the pacing to the gameplay and the platforming allowed me to move and shoot between areas as I felt fit. Gears 2 feels old now, it's gameplay, presentation and action scenes have been outclassed by other games like Vanquish and Uncharted 2. I really liked Gears 2, but I liked the first Gears more because of how fresh and new it was at the time and I don't think just 'more Gears' will satisfy me enough for the third game.

Problem officer?


No offense, but as someone who plays this game every night, I have no idea what you're talking about.

What guns are similar to each other?

Movement is supposed to be slow. As much as people would like to dash around like a mad man, that's not what the game is about.

How is the melee repetitive?

I've played Vanquish. It's not my cup of tea. Quit preaching your opinions on other games as if they were facts.

I'm particularly baffled at the similar weapons comment. The only weapons that are similar are the lancer and hammerburst and that's just because they fire automatic rounds.

I'm not preaching them as facts, if I make the post, then that post is based on my opinion. The guns are boring to use and shoot, the enemies take way too much damage, the covermechanics are clunky, the bull run is hopeless, the melee involves me sawing a guy in half with my lancer for the hundredth time, there is barely any versatility to the combat and when you've essentially played the same game nearly three times, it does get a tad boring.

The argument is which game do you think will be better and I'm listing the reasons why I found Uncharted 2 to be a better shooter than Gears of War 2 and how I hope Epic will fix many of the games problems with Gears 3. 

This is coming from a really big fan of the Gears 1 & 2, but I'm also a consumer who likes to get the best out of their $80 products, which will eventually be Gears of War 3.

The enemies don't take too much damage if you hit active reloads, snipe them in the face or gib them with the gnasher.

I don't see how the cover mechanics are clunky, they're the best I've played with, aside from maybe Splinter Cell: Conviction. You hit a button near a wall and boom, you're in cover on that wall.

Nobody's forcing you to chainsaw anybody.

The bull run is hopeless? What does that even mean? Stop being intentionally vague and unclear.

The only way the combat is repetitive is if you make it that way. I don't see how you can call something repetitive when you're the one influencing what's going on. There are plenty of weapons in the campaign and the multiplayer to refute your claims of it being repetitive.



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Sardauk said:

Difficult choice... but I'll go for Gears 3, only by a few pixels...

Uncharted series looks great... but it lacks the "WAOUWW" effect of the Gears (Blood explosions, incredible texture quality...).

GOW3 shall be probably more spectacular...but I'll get both anyway.

Graphically, although opinionated, Gears 3 has it's work cut out for it. Uncharted 2 is just one of those games that's hard to top and I imagine Uncharted 3 raising that bar even farther (much like Killzone 3 has from Killzone 2). It had wow moment after wow moment (the most for any game according to nearly every reviewer pre-Killzone 3) so Gears 3 will have to truly shine.

With 3 years of dev time, however, the feat seems do-able, but knowing Naughty Dog, they might raise a near impossible bar to top with Uncharted 3 regardless of having 1 year less than Epic.



                                                                                                             

themanwithnoname said:

The enemies don't take too much damage if you hit active reloads, snipe them in the face or gib them with the gnasher.

I Don't see how the cover mechanics are clunky, they're the best I've played with, aside from maybe Splinter Cell: Conviction. You hit a button near a wall and boom, you're in cover on that wall.

Nobody's forcing you to chainsaw anybody.

The bull run is hopeless? What does that even mean? Stop being intentionally vague and unclear.

The only way the combat is repetitive is if you make it that way. I don't see how you can call something repetitive when you're the one influencing what's going on. There are plenty of weapons in the campaign and the multiplayer to refudiate your claims of it being repetitive.

Look, I'm comparing it to another game, a game I think is much better in terms of gameplay and combat. Gears 2 is strictly based around covering, shooting, occassionaly chainsawing someone and then moving forward. In comparison, I can use stealth, platform, use a better and more interesting melee system and it'll only take about 6 shots to take down an enemy. The weapons in Uncharted aren't that great either, but Uncharted makes up for it by offering many others methods to use during combat. 

Uncharted 2 isn't clunky, wall sticky and I can move in and out between cover quickly and with ease. The same thing could be said for Splinter Cell: Conviction, Vanquish and Infamous, as they've all updated the standard cover shooter mechanics and made them faster, smooter and much more interesting. 

All I'm asking is that Epic apply a few of their own changes to their next game, because I didn't think the evolution from Gears 1 to Gears 2 was good enough and in the last three years, other games have come along and done third person shooting better.

The bull run is a useless running mechanic. I understand why it's the way it is, but it doesn't make it good or useful

Also, I just realised your that Fable 3 avatar guy and you can sometimes be a headache to argue with, so if you can, please drop this, I've already explained my position multiple times



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Both will be so equally good that it's really going to come down to playing them.



Ferrari_7861 said:

1 more vote and then its 300 votes! Somebody vote!

I just did, even before reading your post.

That's my honest opinion and I am absolutely unbiased on this subject as I neither own a 360 or PS3 and have no intention whatsoever to play either game. Uncharted 3 is going to be the better game.



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