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Doobie_wop said:
themanwithnoname said:
Doobie_wop said:
d21lewis said:
Doobie_wop said:

Uncharted 2 is a better shooter than Gears of War 2. Gears of War 1 was a better shooter than Uncharted 1. I'm confident in saying that Uncharted 3 will be a better shooter than Gears 3. Judging by the gameplay trailers, Gears 3 seems to be more Gears, which got boring towards the end of my second playthrough of Gears 2. Unless they can dramatically tighten up the gameplay, not make every enemy soak up as much bullets as an enemy from Uncharted 1 and actually add some versatility to the gameplay, then I'm confident in my statement. 

The way Drake manouvers between cover, runs, uses melee, uses stealth, uses platforming and uses the weapons, is near perfection as third person shooter. I played through it the first time by using a mixture of platforming, stealth and standard shooting, the second time I stried to strictly stick to using stealth and platforming and the third time I just went insane and used grenades, launchers and machine guns like a crazy person, without worrying about the loss of ammunition. All three times was fun and all three brought different challenges.

Gears 2 is awesome, but I felt like it's way to similar to Gears 1, which was amazing for a game made in 2006. The running, while looking cool, isn't useful at all. The cover mechanics are clumsy, the characters (their size is probably the reason) are too slow in their movement, the melee is repititive, the shooting is pretty good and the enemies soak up way too much damage without trying to out smart you. 

I'll be buying Gears of War 3 at release, but unless it fixes up the character dialogue, updates the cover and shooter mechanic, makes the story somewhat interesting and makes it look as good as Uncharted 2 (both in terms of art and technical prowess), then it will not be close to being my Game of the Year. That battle will be fought between Uncharted 3, Skyrim, Yakuza 4, Infamous 2 and the inevitable Alan wake 2.


Science would tell you that someone's head can only explode once.  After that, they would be headless with no head left to explode.  I'm here to tell you that science is stupid.  My head exploded at least five times while reading that post.  I'm typing this reply withot a head (that's why I just mispelled "without", btw), eyes, or lips.

I don't think anything I said was wrong. Gears 2 was a linear shooter that got me to unload nearly a whole clip into big bad guys using guns that were fairly similar to each other, then the cover mechanics and movements were slow and the melee combat was repititive. In comparison, Uncharted 2 was also a linear shooter that was fluid in it's movement and intereactions with the environment, the melee didn't get repititive, I didn't have to unload a whole clip into an enemy to kill him, the stealth mechanics changed the pacing to the gameplay and the platforming allowed me to move and shoot between areas as I felt fit. Gears 2 feels old now, it's gameplay, presentation and action scenes have been outclassed by other games like Vanquish and Uncharted 2. I really liked Gears 2, but I liked the first Gears more because of how fresh and new it was at the time and I don't think just 'more Gears' will satisfy me enough for the third game.

Problem officer?


No offense, but as someone who plays this game every night, I have no idea what you're talking about.

What guns are similar to each other?

Movement is supposed to be slow. As much as people would like to dash around like a mad man, that's not what the game is about.

How is the melee repetitive?

I've played Vanquish. It's not my cup of tea. Quit preaching your opinions on other games as if they were facts.

I'm particularly baffled at the similar weapons comment. The only weapons that are similar are the lancer and hammerburst and that's just because they fire automatic rounds.

I'm not preaching them as facts, if I make the post, then that post is based on my opinion. The guns are boring to use and shoot, the enemies take way too much damage, the covermechanics are clunky, the bull run is hopeless, the melee involves me sawing a guy in half with my lancer for the hundredth time, there is barely any versatility to the combat and when you've essentially played the same game nearly three times, it does get a tad boring.

The argument is which game do you think will be better and I'm listing the reasons why I found Uncharted 2 to be a better shooter than Gears of War 2 and how I hope Epic will fix many of the games problems with Gears 3. 

This is coming from a really big fan of the Gears 1 & 2, but I'm also a consumer who likes to get the best out of their $80 products, which will eventually be Gears of War 3.

The enemies don't take too much damage if you hit active reloads, snipe them in the face or gib them with the gnasher.

I don't see how the cover mechanics are clunky, they're the best I've played with, aside from maybe Splinter Cell: Conviction. You hit a button near a wall and boom, you're in cover on that wall.

Nobody's forcing you to chainsaw anybody.

The bull run is hopeless? What does that even mean? Stop being intentionally vague and unclear.

The only way the combat is repetitive is if you make it that way. I don't see how you can call something repetitive when you're the one influencing what's going on. There are plenty of weapons in the campaign and the multiplayer to refute your claims of it being repetitive.



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