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Forums - Sales Discussion - Sony Quarterly Results (July-Sep) 2018, PS4: 3.9M (LTD: 86.1M). Year Ending Sales Revised Upward to 17.5M

0D0 on 30 October 2018

I expect PS4 to beat PS3 by the end of Nov.
Then we'll see the road to 100m.



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

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TheBraveGallade on 30 October 2018
KBG29 said:
TheBraveGallade said:

I might be a bit biased towards nintendo, but here is my two cents:

Sony has TRIED pushing thier own software in TVs and smartphones much like how Samsung did early on, but they both failed there and both are using Android now. At this point the only company that is pushing a non Android mobile device while having su cess is apple. So they can't really move away from that. Sony's original idea of a ' Sony environment' for all thier divices fell apart spectacularly in the mid 2000s when their own standards we're being pushed out of favor by things like USB SD and HDMI.

 

As for gaming... A Vita successor would be caught in the same trap the Vita was, a too expensive to develop for portable, exept it would be even WORSE off because the switch potentially always having a leg up on it (if it's cheaper it's less powerful than switch, if it's more powerful than it would be WAY out of the ballpark of a portable price point which would honestly be 200 dollars). Sony can't really go hybrid like ninty unless they leave the power hungry Western market soly to Xbox.

 

As for passion projects and niche titles... After moving to California they seem to be fucking up the relationship they have with niche Japan devs...

The difference now is that Sony has an ecosystem built on standard X86/Radeon hardware. In the past they were all over the place with every product running vastly different Hardware and OS's. They have moved away from everything being proprietary and started to adopt industry standards, allowing their products to interact with devices from other manufactures. The leg up Sony has over Samsung is they have a successful ecosystem, and exclusive content to build from. At this point they could only gain in sales and profiability moving their TVs and Phones to Ryzen/Radeon, and having a unified ecosystem. Selling TVs and Phones with their OS and Promoting their own services across trade events year round, and world wide boost their entire business.  

If they only made one Phone, just a PlayStation Phone (successor to the Vita), they would destroy their current Xperia sales, and do it without loosing $100's of millions. They would not have to port if they build it right. Running Ryzen and Navi, the games would only need to be optimized for the lower spec hardware. It would be the same engine, and same code as the home PlayStation devices. The business model would be, buy a game on PSN, and it runs on PS Phones and PS Home Consoles. They could sell for $400 - $500 with a profit on the hardware, and offer the best mobile gaming expereince bar none. It wouldn't dethrone iOS or Android, it might not even match Switch, but running the same Unified OS and Games as PS5, it would not have to dominate on its own to survive. It would just be another profitable peice in the overall PlayStation Ecosystem.

I think they are doing great with passion projects right now. Though I do agree with their issue with Japanese relations right now. However, when you look at PSVR, it is an absolute passion project. They are continuing to push with bigger and bigger games in the VR space, even though the userbase is growing slowly. They are sticking to it, and driving the innovation for the next massive advancement in media. Obviously they are hoping for it to explode and be the next Internet or Smartphone boom, but for now at least, they are living the fact that it can take years before things finally click. If you want niche and passion look no further than Firewall Zero Hour, Astro Bot Rescue Mission, and Deracine. Two of those come from Japan, and one of them (Astro Bot) is considered by many to be the best VR game to date.

The problem is running un unified OS WILL put constraints on what the PS5 would run potentially.

 

Also I don't know how a PS phone even if it's besically a portable gaming system, would really replace Android/iOS phones when it wouldn't have the phone apps everyone expects a phone to have. Sony would have to brute Force through it by paying devs to make ports if apps like Facebook messenger line Google maps and stuff like that (and I do not think Google will give them Google apps)



thismeintiel on 30 October 2018
zorg1000 said:
Megiddo said:

Sensing yet another PS4 hardware adjustment on this site. I'm not thinking that there are ~2.75 mil PS4s just sitting on shelves/in transit.

Solid quarterly results. Sony's comments are basically saying, "Wow, we are still selling so much despite no price reductions? Well, guess we won't need to drop the price. Thanks for the money"


Hardware sell through was 53.4m as of Jan 1, 2016 when shipments were at 57.1m, a difference of 3.7m.

Hardware sell through was 73.6m as of Dec 31, 2017 when shipments were at 76.5m, a difference of 2.9m.

 

It might need a slight adjustment but nothing major.

Those are holiday quarters, when channels are always more stuffed. At this time of the year, it would more like a 1.5M on shelves. 2M max. 



 

Kerotan on 30 October 2018
colafitte said:
Kerotan said:
Anyone got a ps4 vs ps2 comparison?

Credit to ZhugeEX.

PS4 is ahead of PS2

Wow. So ps4 could be the fastest console in history to hit 100m? Considering it's still priced so high that's staggering. 



Carl on 30 October 2018
colafitte said:

Credit to ZhugeEX.

PS4 is ahead of PS2

That's a great graph. Really informative.

Thanks @ZhugeEX 



                            

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Noobie on 30 October 2018
pxrocks said:
They need to decrease the price of ps4 to 199$ or 150$.that thing is still expensive after 5 yrs.thats just not right.

Based on their below statement, look like they are not interested in doing much promotion or deals in this holiday season.



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Nautilus on 30 October 2018

Revised upwards?Color me impressed!



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Tmfwang on 30 October 2018
pxrocks said:
They need to decrease the price of ps4 to 199$ or 150$.that thing is still expensive after 5 yrs.thats just not right.

No need when it's selling as much as it does.



Predicted 15+ million lifetime-sales for God of War:

- http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=234612&page=1

poklane on 30 October 2018

Software sales are now at 853million. Page 8: https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/18q2_supplement.pdf
FY18 Q2 (July - September) software sales: 75,1million
Software sales as of 30 June 2018: 777.9million



PortisheadBiscuit on 30 October 2018
Noobie said:
pxrocks said:
They need to decrease the price of ps4 to 199$ or 150$.that thing is still expensive after 5 yrs.thats just not right.

Based on their below statement, look like they are not interested in doing much promotion or deals in this holiday season.

Wow, so they're pretty much bluntly saying "yeah it's costing us less to produce the PS4 now, but suck it, since we're doing well at the current MSRP we're not passing on the savings to consumers". Can't say I blame them though, so close to a new gen where R&D costs are probably through the roof, smart to keep the operatng income as high as possible.