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President Trump Sides With Russia Against the United States.

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numberwang said:

Obama in October 2016:

'There is no serious person out there who would suggest that you could even rig America's election... voter fraud not to be found.. whenever you [Trump] lose you start blaming somebody else... no evidence of rigging, I advice Mr. Trump to stop whining'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXpRswM-tzc

 

numberwang said:

Clinton October 2016:

"not respecting the results of an election is threatening our democracy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBxZIuFZEmA

These don't make any sense.

1.) The FBI is not part of the Democratic party.  It is an American intelligence agency, that is largely run by Republicans.  

2.) Obama is talking about a different kind of voter fraud. Voting machines can be hacked to manipulate the vote.  Trump disbanded the search for voter fraud, despite months of claiming it was out there.

3.) The big concern with Russia isn't voter fraud. You're conflating two very separate issues.



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massimus said:
Exactly, it’s not voter fraud so what the fuck is the investigation about? Russian Facebook ads determined our elections!

You shouldn’t underestimate how easily voters can be manipulated.



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Tmfwang said:
massimus said:
Exactly, it’s not voter fraud so what the fuck is the investigation about? Russian Facebook ads determined our elections!

You shouldn’t underestimate how easily voters can be manipulated.

I dont underestimate stupid people lol. People fall for politician bullshit all of the time, it’s nothing new. Trump is actually one of the few who kept a lot of his promises. You said the only reason trump won was because of voter manipulation, right? How were people manipulated by Russians exactly? They were going to vote Clinton until [blank]. Help me understand your point of view.



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massimus said:

Hahahahaha I completely forgot about that. Like cnn and Clinton making a stink that trump wouldn’t accept the results. Self-awareness, they have none.

Because Trump making a "stink" that he was going to lose the election because of voter fraud and a rigged election, proves he's so much better.

massimus said:
Exactly, it’s not voter fraud so what the fuck is the investigation about? Russian Facebook ads determined our elections!

Not just ads, but hacking, gathering private information to be used.

massimus said:

You said the only reason trump won was because of voter manipulation, right? How were people manipulated by Russians exactly? They were going to vote Clinton until [blank]. Help me understand your point of view.

There's a reason millions upon millions are spent on political ads.  

Imagine if the United Kingdom specifically devised millions of dollars worth of ads, claiming that Trump was a nazi, and that he was planning on killing millions.  Would you be okay with that, or would you prefer it to be investigated? 



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the-pi-guy said:
massimus said:

Hahahahaha I completely forgot about that. Like cnn and Clinton making a stink that trump wouldn’t accept the results. Self-awareness, they have none.

Because Trump making a "stink" that he was going to lose the election because of voter fraud and a rigged election, proves he's so much better.

massimus said:
Exactly, it’s not voter fraud so what the fuck is the investigation about? Russian Facebook ads determined our elections!

Not just ads, but hacking, gathering private information to be used.

massimus said:

You said the only reason trump won was because of voter manipulation, right? How were people manipulated by Russians exactly? They were going to vote Clinton until [blank]. Help me understand your point of view.

There's a reason millions upon millions are spent on political ads.  

Imagine if the United Kingdom specifically devised millions of dollars worth of ads, claiming that Trump was a nazi, and that he was planning on killing millions.  Would you be okay with that, or would you prefer it to be investigated? 

He never said he was going to lose. They asked him if he would unequivocally accept the result of the election and he said no. How the tables have turned, huh? They were all about it when they believed those bullshit polls lmao! Trump won’t accept the results! Attack on our democracy! 

Ok well how did the hacking and information gathering affect the election? 

 

We don’t need the UK for that we have the democrat party. I honestly wouldn’t care lol. Do you think the US doesn’t play in other countries elections? Obama sent groups over for the Israeli elections. 



so Russia told you who to vote for and you listened? 



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Bill Clinton told Trump to run in early 2015.

Why did Bill Clinton do that?



massimus said:
Exactly, it’s not voter fraud so what the fuck is the investigation about? Russian Facebook ads determined our elections!

Twelve Russians were just indicted, like, two days ago. At this point, you don't really have any grounds to plead ignorance.