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Will the Switch fail just like the WII U?

Yes; without a strong 3rd party support 35 18.52%
 
No; Switch does not need 3rd party support 84 44.44%
 
Other 54 28.57%
 
See Poll Results 16 8.47%
 
Total:189
DonFerrari on 08 December 2017
PAOerfulone said:
DonFerrari said:
In this pool we see the love for 3rd parties that Nintendo gamers have... at least 40% of then don't think Switch will even need them.

That doesn't mean that 40% doesn't want it. 
And they're not exactly wrong. 
Nintendo is not as reliant on 3rd party support as the other 2 are. 
The Switch can just have the usual 1st party titles + the Japanese 3rd party support and it'll be a success. 
Western 3rd Party support, the ones the OP is referring to, is really just a bonus.

If that was the single evidence... we see the sales of several of then and the disdain on VGC for most and the excuse that it doesn't cater to nintendo's fans taste.

TheWPCTraveler said:
DonFerrari said:
In this pool we see the love for 3rd parties that Nintendo gamers have... at least 40% of then don't think Switch will even need them.

"don't need" is not equal to "don't want."

Though, in a sense, I believe that Nintendo alone is not enough to support a successful platform. So, count me in with the 60% that think sensibly on the matter.

Answer above



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Goodnightmoon on 08 December 2017

Not even Patcher would say such a stupid thing but ok, opinions I guess.



Mnementh on 08 December 2017
DonFerrari said:
In this pool we see the love for 3rd parties that Nintendo gamers have... at least 40% of then don't think Switch will even need them.

Two different things. I can love 3rd-party-games and hate they don't come to Nintendo and still think they're unneeded for success of the device.



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TheWPCTraveler on 08 December 2017
DonFerrari said:
PAOerfulone said:

That doesn't mean that 40% doesn't want it. 
And they're not exactly wrong. 
Nintendo is not as reliant on 3rd party support as the other 2 are. 
The Switch can just have the usual 1st party titles + the Japanese 3rd party support and it'll be a success. 
Western 3rd Party support, the ones the OP is referring to, is really just a bonus.

If that was the single evidence... we see the sales of several of then and the disdain on VGC for most and the excuse that it doesn't cater to nintendo's fans taste.

TheWPCTraveler said:

"don't need" is not equal to "don't want."

Though, in a sense, I believe that Nintendo alone is not enough to support a successful platform. So, count me in with the 60% that think sensibly on the matter.

Answer above

?
Then again, I do tend to interface with like-minded Nintendo fans who tend to play more Japanese third-party games (JRPGs and SRPGs, on my part) than the rest of the fanbase.

*glares at 3DS shelf which has more Atlus than Nintendo games*



 
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LiquorandGunFun on 08 December 2017

the switch is good enough for nintendo games, the exclusives, but i have no interests personally in 3rd party games for the switch for the most part, thats not so much nintendo's fault, its just the games that are coming out are like over 5 years old and even scaled down to allow it to even run..... yeah.... not for me. plus with the 3rd party support there are alot more commercials for the switch too.

however i dont think the switch will fail simply due to the fact its portable. and nintendo handhelds have always done well for the most part, no one really can compete, the problem is that the tech is limited being portable to be affordable. its a vicious cycle, but with good enough exclusives and continuing high sales worldwide, i think its a success in its own category.

I feel that comparing the switch to xb1 and ps4 is like comparing the 3ds to the ps3 or x360. It is in its own category and a great member to a game collection or hobby.



 

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TheBraveGallade on 08 December 2017

One word: pokemon.



acdcste on 08 December 2017
FattyDingDong said:

Now you are welcome to disagree with me and this is all my opinion. But after carefully observing the Switch over months I have concluded that it's a fad that will wash away painfully soon. I will admit that it offers a great concept but without a substantial 3rd party support it will have the same fate that the WII U had. Thus far the Switch has enjoyed great AAA 1st party exclusives such as Zelda and Mario releases but if we think about it Nintendo never had to suffer with the 1st party support, they have always had strong 1st party backing and as much as I hate to bring this up again, they need huge 3rd party backing from Activision, EA, Ubisoft etc.   You may hate COD, Battlefield, Madden, Assassins Creed etc. and a lot of Nintendo fans will naturally not pay too much attention to those titles however in order to target the massive amount of casual consumers Nintendo needs support from those giant publishers.  EA has recently announced that aside from a FIFA port they have no desire to publish any of their AAA games for the Nintendo platform,   Activision has refused to even comment on the possibility of brining COD to the Switch (can you imagine how great of an idea it would be to play COD on the go?   DOOM is fantastic on the Switch). Ubisoft and other major publishers have also been rather unenthusiastic about the Switch.

Therefor, I am convinced that the Switch is a fad that will go away within a year or two. And I am not a hater by any means as a matter fact I want it to succeed because i believe it's a very unique concept, however with lackluster 3rd party AAA support it has a very predictable fate.

I respect your right to have an opinion but I’m afraid I’ll have to respectfully disagree!



Veknoid_Outcast on 08 December 2017

I guess I just don't get why some folks constantly hammer home the viewpoint that Switch (or any Nintendo system) is dead in the water without "AAA" third-party games. There's just no precedent for that notion. If anything, there's precedent for the opposite. When Nintendo tried to accommodate AAA third-parties and/or count on them to fill gaps in its software line-up, it was typically unsuccessful. See GCN, WiiU.

When Nintendo creates a platform designed to succeed in the absence of AAA third-party support, it usually flourishes. See GBA, DS, Wii, 3DS, and now Switch.



DonFerrari on 08 December 2017
Mnementh said:
DonFerrari said:
In this pool we see the love for 3rd parties that Nintendo gamers have... at least 40% of then don't think Switch will even need them.

Two different things. I can love 3rd-party-games and hate they don't come to Nintendo and still think they're unneeded for success of the device.

Already answered that. Based not only on answer here but different threads.

TheWPCTraveler said:
DonFerrari said:

If that was the single evidence... we see the sales of several of then and the disdain on VGC for most and the excuse that it doesn't cater to nintendo's fans taste.

Answer above

?
Then again, I do tend to interface with like-minded Nintendo fans who tend to play more Japanese third-party games (JRPGs and SRPGs, on my part) than the rest of the fanbase.

*glares at 3DS shelf which has more Atlus than Nintendo games*

Well, I didn't say all Nintendo fans don't want, like or speak bad of 3rd parties, but that on this forum there are a lot who behave just like that.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Veknoid_Outcast on 08 December 2017
DonFerrari said:
Mnementh said:

Two different things. I can love 3rd-party-games and hate they don't come to Nintendo and still think they're unneeded for success of the device.

Already answered that. Based not only on answer here but different threads.

TheWPCTraveler said:

?
Then again, I do tend to interface with like-minded Nintendo fans who tend to play more Japanese third-party games (JRPGs and SRPGs, on my part) than the rest of the fanbase.

*glares at 3DS shelf which has more Atlus than Nintendo games*

Well, I didn't say all Nintendo fans don't want, like or speak bad of 3rd parties, but that on this forum there are a lot who behave just like that.

Given the events of 2017, I think it's more than fair to be skeptical of AAA third-party games. Titles like Destiny 2, Shadow of War, Call of Duty: WWII, and Battlefront 2 don't exactly inspire confidence.

Right now, Nintendo fans who look down on those types of games, and the shoddy design decisions and cynical business practices therein, are probably on the right side of history. If anything, I think Sony and Microsoft fans are headed toward a reckoning. They'll have to decide whether AAA third-party games, which keep their favorite platforms afloat, are worth lionizing.