DrDoomz said:
JRPGfan said:
Im not a US citizen so excuse me if Im not 100% on all this but....
I think it has to do with people did some calculations and those 6$ Bn are about a 3rd of the actual price needed to do what he said, along the entire distance. After all why build just part of a wall some place? people could just walk around it if if you dont do it the entire stretch.
also it has to do with the wall itself.... you can easy saw through it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB-fv2aK8t4
The department of homeland security themselves tested these walls, that Trump wants to build and say its meaningless.
Also walls will need manpower to protect it & repair, because as is, its basically not going to do anything to prevent immigration or drug smugling.
That costs too, the 6$ bn is waaaaay to little, it ll end up costing much more.
So basically the dems are saying, there are smarter ways to use money to prevent immigration or drug smugling.
Which is probably true. They see it as just throwing money out the window.'
However Trump ran his campagne on this lie, that a wall would fix everything.
So he needs to get some kinda wall buildt, if he wants to run for president again.
Thats all it is, its a meaningless waste of money, so he has a chance to get re-elected.
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Again, if it fails or is proven to be objectively useless, the democrats win and can use it as a campaign position for decades to come. They can do this AND get some of their campaign promises done. The cost of it isn’t significant enough to sink the US economy. Far from it. From where I stand, it’s win-win-win for Democrats if they weren’t so obstructionist. The only risk they face is if it does work and the repubs can use it for their campaign.
Meaningful use of money is relative. The US is losing billions on the government shutdown alone. Do the US really need to buy another 90 F-35s? The whole efficient spending argument is silly. Governments are never efficient in spending. And 6B or even 20B isn’t really all that big relative to what the US spends in defense. A reasonable number of americans want the wall. The same way a reasonable number of americans want affordable health care for all or a streamlined immigration process. Trading one for the other seems like the smart way to go. But we all know that’s never gonna happen. :p It’s become Us vs Them, We’re ready to lose as long as you fail too mutual assured destruction kinda thing.
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#1 money doesnt grow on trees, the people in power souldnt just waste, the tax pays contributions, it if they know it wont work.
#2 Trump is the jerk, wasteing money on this shut down. Why is it only the dems that should act to save the country from this waste? where is your anger towards trump? you seem to have double standards.
#3 Trump was the one to increase the military spending budget. They didnt even want or ask for it. Why didnt he instead back then put some aside for the wall?
#4 "goverment spending is never efficent", Damn strait, we have people like Trump throwing money away, after being told by homeland security, that it wont work, on a wall, that wont serve any purpose and people like you advocateing for it. When people behave such, you wont have a efficent government spending.
#5 "A reasonable number of americans want the wall." Theres probably many more times, people that rather the shut down end, and we not waste money. Why should the few idoits get there way? The people that bought into Trump lies about how easy it would be to solve this issue with just a wall. These people dont even believe in facts, when the truth says something else they just ignore it
"We’re ready to lose as long as you fail too mutual assured destruction kinda thing."
and the one to blame is Trump and his followers.
Why arnt you guys willing to give? if your ready to accuse others of not just doing so.
Again double standards.
