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d21lewis said:

My YouTube recommendations are, for some reason, overflowing with videos from PC gamers attacking console games. Whenever I see a Facebook post from Sony or Microsoft, there's a guarantee that somebody will comment "My  PC can blah, blah." I've never been a PC gamer (or really given much consideration about the habits and thought process of the PC gamer) so I can't really refute their arguments. At the same time, they seem to have some misconceptions about the current state of console gaming as well.

I'd just like to know why you choose to be a console only "peasant", compared to the "Glorious PC Master Race".

Why? Where do I begin?

Because I want a system so I can play video games and not a system so I can spend my time telling people how my system is great and so much better than other systems.

I want a system I feel comfortable with and not a system that would allow me to call other people "peasants" too ignorant to be part of the "glorious master race". The sole fact some people need to say that shows they have some insecurity issues they need to deal with.

I want a system that has the games I love and the fact is most games I love are on PS4. This is subjective I suppose. Someone else can find most of the games they love on other systems too.

No matter what people say, I cannot and never will feel comfortable playing games with a mouse and a keyboard. Bear in mind that those two devices were invented for OTHER purposes (typing and scrolling through documents) and using them as gaming devices is a derivative use rather than a primary one. For me nothing beats a controller which was made for games and nothing else.

Why would I game on small computer screen when I can game on my 55" TV screen? And before anyone says that you can too with a computer, I'll say: I know you can but TV gaming is a "console" thing whereas computer gaming is a "computer" thing first and plugging that to your TV is kind of a way from PC gamers to admit that plugging your console to a TV is not a bad idea so they are going to do it too which is fine as long as you are not one of those PC gamers that love to call yourself the master race and us console gamers, peasants. Cause feeling so superior and ending up doing what we console gamers have been doing from the very beginning of consoles history, is kind of lame.

I love a dedicated closed environment like the one on PS4 and I don't want to deal with the million small things you need to deal with when you game on a PC (compatibility issues, drivers, installing issues, DRM's, upgrading hardware inside the computer, viruses etc...)

I love to know that whether my Console (PS4 for example) is brand new or 5 years old, that it will still play the games EXACTLY as they are meant to be played. Try to play one of those brand new super graphically demanding AAA games on a 5 years old computer on which you have NOT upgraded the components inside and you'll see what I mean... And before someone says, the game will still play, I'll say: Sure, I'm not saying it does not play at all, I'm saying it won't perform as well as it would on a brand new PC with the latest GPU, whereas a console whether brand new or many years old, a game for that console will perform EXACTLY the same.

For 400 Euros I can get the PS4 Pro, for even less I can get the regular PS4, not sure I can get the latest computer with the latest TITAN 1080 super blah blah GPU plus a great CPU plus a great 4K computer screen for that amount of money. I'm just making a point here, of course I know I CANNOT get such a high end computer for that small amount of money.

And so on and so forth... I could go on for a while but this is a post in a forum and not a 300 pages book. And to be clear I'm NOT saying gaming on PC is bad or anything like that, I would just like that PC gamers stop calling us names and calling themselves the master race. Instead they should spend their time enjoying their games and letting us console gamers enjoy ours. There are pros and cons to every system but as long as one enjoys the pros of one's system of choice, that's all that matters, IMO.

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CrazyGamer2017 said: 

And so on and so forth... I could go on for a while but this is a post in a forum and not a 300 pages book. And to be clear I'm NOT saying gaming on PC is bad or anything like that, I would just like that PC gamers stop calling us names and calling themselves the master race. Instead they should spend their time enjoying their games and letting us console gamers enjoy ours. There are pros and cons to every system but as long as one enjoys the pros of one's system of choice, that's all that matters, IMO.

But that's the thing. All the people who keep saying there are two sides to the coin, only seem to be listing the good sides for one part of the coin, while listing the negatives for the other, then following it up by saying "it's not bad", but the entire picture was just painted as such for the other side of the coin, it effectively makes one side look better than the other.

Also name calling?. Dude, I've seen that back and forth rigmarole for years and it's not all just on the PC side either. Why is it so hard to see that both sides do the same thing?.

It's the same when it comes to "hackers". I see MP being judged and when it comes to this forum and a few others, it's always the few that bring up PC MP as if it's literally unplayable in any shape or form, yet I've spent years gaming on both PC and consoles and I've only ran into a cheater a few times throughout 2 decades, rather than a plethora of them (heck, I've ran into cheaters on CoD, who would use lag switches back in the day on console, that either got you killed or got everyone booted before the cheater lost. But that's besides the point).



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Chazore said:

But that's the thing. All the people who keep saying there are two sides to the coin, only seem to be listing the good sides for one part of the coin, while listing the negatives for the other, then following it up by saying "it's not bad", but the entire picture was just painted as such for the other side of the coin, it effectively makes one side look better than the other.

Also name calling?. Dude, I've seen that back and forth rigmarole for years and it's not all just on the PC side either. Why is it so hard to see that both sides do the same thing?.

I suppose people tend to list the good side of their system of choice while listing the bad sides of the other systems but I don't think that is as bad as outright calling others "peasants" and oneself the "master race". There is a level of spite and arrogance that is not found in simply listing the bad sides of a system or the good sides of another system. The message is pretty much: "Not only am I better than you but you are a total inferior idiot for not agreeing with me and playing as I play".

Now having said that, simply listing one's system's qualities while dissing another's flaws is probably short-sighted if there is no specific context. I do not act that way. In this thread for instance, a specific question is asked, why I feel console gaming is better than PC so I'm listing the reasons why I don't (as a personal choice) choose to game on PC and in this context it makes sense to list the PC's flaws and at the same time my chosen sytem's qualities. Though I would have preferred a less aggressive question such as "Why do I prefer gaming on console rather than on PC". But you cannot blame me for the words chosen by the OP 

But out of context, listing a sytem's flaws is fine if one has the honesty of acknowledging that one's system of choice also has flaws. It's then called constructive criticism and it's not meant to belittle people for their choice but to push the makers of said system to improve on it. Of course constructive criticism can be easily misunderstood and considered an attack so when one engages in such an endeavor one needs to be careful in one's choice of words.



CrazyGamer2017 said:

I suppose people tend to list the good side of their system of choice while listing the bad sides of the other systems but I don't think that is as bad as outright calling others "peasants" and oneself the "master race". There is a level of spite and arrogance that is not found in simply listing the bad sides of a system or the good sides of another system. The message is pretty much: "Not only am I better than you but you are a total inferior idiot for not agreeing with me and playing as I play".

Now having said that, simply listing one's system's qualities while dissing another's flaws is probably short-sighted if there is no specific context. I do not act that way. In this thread for instance, a specific question is asked, why I feel console gaming is better than PC so I'm listing the reasons why I don't (as a personal choice) choose to game on PC and in this context it makes sense to list the PC's flaws and at the same time my chosen sytem's qualities. Though I would have preferred a less aggressive question such as "Why do I prefer gaming on console rather than on PC". But you cannot blame me for the words chosen by the OP 

But out of context, listing a sytem's flaws is fine if one has the honesty of acknowledging that one's system of choice also has flaws. It's then called constructive criticism and it's not meant to belittle people for their choice but to push the makers of said system to improve on it. Of course constructive criticism can be easily misunderstood and considered an attack so when one engages in such an endeavor one needs to be careful in one's choice of words.

But that's you doing just what you said at the start. You're saying one thing isn't as bad as the other, but the other half is definitely worse.

Look around the internet, there are all sorts of people ragging on PC. It's this forum and a few others that only seem to go on about PC players ragging on console folk. Right now, at this very moment, I'm dealing with a commenter on a bench marking youtube channel, who is known for praising PS4 to the high heavens, while taking absolutely any chance he can at making PC look like it's the dark ages. He gets such satisfaction from making PC players angry and upset. He isn't alone though, I've come across many like him over the years and it's not just on the one side either, it stems from both sides. We have people that wear PCMR as a badge of pride (even though it was actually a joke geared at PC gamers by Yahtzee croshaw, many years ago) and those on the console side who call themselves the "god race" or "godstation" users, so it's not just on the PC side, it's on both.

The meme's origin:

 

Well yes, it is. It just paints the picture that the favoured is favoured, over the other. We all have our own bias, but it's nice to be objective here and there.

See, I know you are following OP's question, but if the opposite was asked, you'd likely not have much to give as an answer, simply because it's not your forte, so the qualities of that side wouldn't be brought up.

I think the constructive criticism can also be criticised for not being entirely all there as well, that's another thing to look out for. To some it may appear as an attack, but to others, it can also present flaws within said criticism (like claiming an object fact, but not taking into account that it was flawed due to the lack of knowledge of said flaw/quality).



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Chazore said:

But that's you doing just what you said at the start. You're saying one thing isn't as bad as the other, but the other half is definitely worse.

Look around the internet, there are all sorts of people ragging on PC. It's this forum and a few others that only seem to go on about PC players ragging on console folk. Right now, at this very moment, I'm dealing with a commenter on a bench marking youtube channel, who is known for praising PS4 to the high heavens, while taking absolutely any chance he can at making PC look like it's the dark ages. He gets such satisfaction from making PC players angry and upset. He isn't alone though, I've come across many like him over the years and it's not just on the one side either, it stems from both sides. We have people that wear PCMR as a badge of pride (even though it was actually a joke geared at PC gamers by Yahtzee croshaw, many years ago) and those on the console side who call themselves the "god race" or "godstation" users, so it's not just on the PC side, it's on both.

Well yes, it is. It just paints the picture that the favoured is favoured, over the other. We all have our own bias, but it's nice to be objective here and there.

See, I know you are following OP's question, but if the opposite was asked, you'd likely not have much to give as an answer, simply because it's not your forte, so the qualities of that side wouldn't be brought up.

I think the constructive criticism can also be criticised for not being entirely all there as well, that's another thing to look out for. To some it may appear as an attack, but to others, it can also present flaws within said criticism (like claiming an object fact, but not taking into account that it was flawed due to the lack of knowledge of said flaw/quality).

I haven't said something is bad I have only said why I choose one system over another and If I was blunt it was precisely because of the context of the question as asked by the OP in which PC gamers see themselves as the master race and us console gamers as peasants. I simply demonstrated that if you wish to see flaws in consoles, that we simple peasants can ALSO find flaws in the Master Race's choice of gaming. That is very different from just out of the blue and for no reason scream MASTER RACE us, Peasants you... You will never see in my signature how superior my console is over your PC because that's EXACTLY what I'm saying, it's out of context and why would I want to attack people in my signature when they can see it in threads that have NOTHING to do with consoles or PC's?

If the opposite was asked I wouldn't have said anything because I don't play on PC so I cannot talk about the qualities of a system I do not know, so me talking about the qualities of a system I don't know much about, makes no sense. But someone else who does play on PC could and still can talk about the qualities of PC gaming. I don't have a problem with someone else talking about their reasons to choose PC so why would you or anyone have a problem with me talking about my reasons for gaming on console? In that regard, comparing me to console fans that attack PC gaming is unfair in my opinion.

And I'm not calling you a liar or anything like that but I have never heard anyone playing on console call themselves the Godrace or the PS the Godstation.  I literally have never heard that, before now on this thread. And if someone has, it must be very rare because if it was common I would have heard about it. But PC Master Race, it's so common and so used around the internet that everybody knows what the "Master Race" is when talking about gaming.

And of course you can criticize constructive criticism, I don't have a problem with that either. But you cannot dismiss it altogether simply by saying that it can be criticized too. If one wishes to engage in constructive criticism one must explain and elaborate as to the reasons why one thinks something deserves criticism. Just criticizing something and not explaining why, is not constructive criticism, it's an attack. If for example I say I'd rather play on a 55" TV screen than on a 15" computer monitor because the much bigger screen surface is more immersive, I am using constructive criticism because I explained the reasons for my choice. You have the right to disagree of course but what I said is still constructive criticism. But when someone says: the PC race is the master race and console players are peasants, there is NOTHING constructive there, it's only meant to attack, belittle and hurt. And if you heard someone say Godstation, it's just as stupid and empty as calling oneself the master race.

In the meantime, and please do not see this as an attack or anything bad cause so far I appreciate our discussion and exchange of ideas, but the fact is that in the meantime your signature screams PC MASTER RACE whereas mine does say NOTHING about Godstation or me being better than a PC gamer or anything like that. So the question is why? Why do you feel the need to scream something in your signature that is telling someone like me that I'm an inferior, that my choice of gaming is poor, that I don't see the light of the day cause I chose consoles over PC?



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SvennoJ said:

And how long would it take to dump over a thousand movies.... That's hardly convenient now is it :)

There's Netflix on the tv remote if I'm too lazy to put in a disk. If I want top quality picture, sound and extras for the full movie experience, blu-ray is the way to go and consoles are very useful for that. The only downside is the crap they make you have to skip through before you can start the movie.

Hey. This is an endeavor that has been years in the making. :P
Usually I drop a heap of disks in and let it go overnight.

SvennoJ said:

There's Netflix on the tv remote if I'm too lazy to put in a disk. If I want top quality picture, sound and extras for the full movie experience, blu-ray is the way to go and consoles are very useful for that. The only downside is the crap they make you have to skip through before you can start the movie.


If you want the top quality picture and sound... The HTPC is the best solution. Consoles don't even compare, I'm not even kidding.
Blu-Ray is only the start of the equation, there is so much more to enhance the visual and audio experience.


SvennoJ said:

You could argue 4K gives an even better picture quality, however I bought Your Name on blu-ray for CAD 25, the 4K edition is CAD 143
https://www.play-asia.com/kimi-no-na-wa-your-name-collectors-edition-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-l/13/70b6kl (or CAD 168 via Amazon)
The blu-ray is reference quality, stunning upscaled to 4K. I can live without the extra bits and keep CAD 118 in my pocket!

I want my name back please.

Here is some information on video decoding. (A little old, still relevant.)
I suggest you give this a read: https://www.anandtech.com/show/6335/amds-trinity-an-htpc-perspective
And: https://www.anandtech.com/show/2931/4

There is more to it than just putting in a Blu-ray and thinking you have the best quality, there is a ton you can do to improve the experience, especially in regards to deinterlacing and noise reduction.

On the Audio front... Inside a computer is a very noisy environment, an Xbox or Playstation is no different in that regard as they are computers.
Which is why if you wish to have the best Audio experience, nothing less than an external DAC will do.



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Pemalite said:

Hey. This is an endeavor that has been years in the making. :P
Usually I drop a heap of disks in and let it go overnight.

If you want the top quality picture and sound... The HTPC is the best solution. Consoles don't even compare, I'm not even kidding.
Blu-Ray is only the start of the equation, there is so much more to enhance the visual and audio experience.


Here is some information on video decoding. (A little old, still relevant.)
I suggest you give this a read: https://www.anandtech.com/show/6335/amds-trinity-an-htpc-perspective
And: https://www.anandtech.com/show/2931/4

There is more to it than just putting in a Blu-ray and thinking you have the best quality, there is a ton you can do to improve the experience, especially in regards to deinterlacing and noise reduction.

On the Audio front... Inside a computer is a very noisy environment, an Xbox or Playstation is no different in that regard as they are computers.
Which is why if you wish to have the best Audio experience, nothing less than an external DAC will do.

I'm not sure I follow you. What does a noisy electronic environment have to do with digital audio. Either the ps4 decodes it to 7.1 and sends it in pcm format to my amp, or it just sends the bitstream and lets my amp decode it for zero difference. 5.1 pcm 192/24 worked flawless already on ps3 with Akira.

As for deinterlacing, I think I have 2 blu-rays that have interlaced video out of 500. It's very rare. I also like the movie the way it was meant to be seen without enhancements, no artificial noise reduction or, gasp, detail enhancement, judder free 24fps is what I want which blu-ray kindly delivers. I turn all that shit off on a new tv as soon as I set it up. I've had the pro run a blu-ray upscaled to 4K and the base ps4 run a blu-ray with the tv handling the upscale. I see no difference, both look amazing.

All I need the player to do is to decompress the video file and send it over, don't alter it. The tv does all the enhancements, however I have it set up that when it detects a 24p signal it switches to a setting that leaves the picture the way it is. Smooth motion, reality creation, noise reduction, motion flow, cinema pro, the fuck! It can enhance the contrast with local dimming and smooth gradients to 10 bit to hide 8 bit color banding, that's it.

You're happy with HTPC solution and that works for you. It probably looks great on monitors that aren't made for movie viewing (and tv as well ofcourse). I've selected my displays based on how well they can show the original signal, warts and all.

I guess I don't want the best quality, I want the original quality :)



I play on both. If the game is better suited for tv/controller, i'll play it on a console, if it works better with a m/kb and close to the screen, PC it is!

That being said 90% of games i play is on consoles. On PC i only really play MMOs and strategies, and theres not much of them coming out these days.



We all know that, technically, PC gaming can provide more smooth experiences but consoles are cheaper and easier to deal with. They´re better for local multiplayer and for portability.

Most videogame fans I know, or at least at my circles of friends, play both on PC and console. The majority of them, thought, don´t have very good computers and play mostly indie games on them.



Affordability, comfort and convenience. Anyone who argues over how PC gaming is better doesn't understand the sheer simplicity of just sitting down, turning on your console and gaming (unless they do both).

A guy in my office was ranting about stuff a little while ago (I over hear conversations) and he was wondering why anyone would want a console and game on it. But a high end PC is not only expensive but has to sit somewhere, isn't attached to your main TV. If I got involved in the conversation I'd ask him what car he has? When he tells me he doesn't have a Audi R8 and I ask him why, my point is made. People prefer one thing over another, the fact console gaming is just far simpler helps, whether it's the control scheme, setup or whatever.

Last edited by The Fury - on 14 November 2017

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