Ah.  Another supremely constructive addition to conversation.  
I thought I already established I was posting under premise Wii was not competitor to S/M, and one cannot win a competition that doesn't exist. Clearly some consider them competitors, but equally, others do not, including Sony themselves as well I don't see Nintendo hyping competition. Nintendo themselves consistently emphasized uniqueness and non-competition, i.e. blue seas, so it's not unreasonable to also assume that. Regardless, people use different paradigms, but it is absurd to ignore that and interpret an invocation of different paradigm as "rewriting history".

It's like people who hear a usage of "America" as "USA" (instead of "American Continents") as get offended rather than "internally translate": "OH, they must mean the different thing, so I will understand their statement as that, so I can respond to what they were actually communicating". Obviously I never made a statement suggesting PS3 outsold Wii at any point, and I doubt anybody seriously thought I intentionally implied such. So why the childish pretense to not understand the actual intended meaning? Is actual regular communication not the goal here? 

Chazore said: 0815user said: you're always a loser if you make wrong decisions and pc is definitely no safe bet. it's just one of many wrong decisions you can make as a "gamer". So you're basically the loser if you choose PC?.

let's just say that i can't see the benefits of getting tempted to upgrade so far ahead curve to a point where one can't handle the still widespread 1080p/30fps standard anymore. and i also don't see the winner argument in the "spend on hardware, save on software" mentality because that only leads to widen the gap between the average game and the theoretical maximum performance level of a gpu. if we all would make decisions like that we will end up playing nothing but flappy bird type games on our supercomputers.

PS3 sold less than Wii, so it lost. Case closed. All the cherrypicking about - it was in competition with X360 and not Wii, because that was another market - is history rewriting.

N64 won the fifth gen. It sold more than Saturn. PS was in a different market. So N64 was the winner.

All 3 of them are devices in the home console market. Main focus is to play video games. Even if Nintendo does their own thing, the customer don't really care. All they see in the market are 3 different home consoles.

OT: What can you do wrong with PC? You buy one, as access to a vast amount of games from all "gen's". And even with better performance.

Sorry, Wii crushed it like a little bitch.

Nah I wouldn't trust pc, things break with different configs, setups, OS, hell even switching a gpu brand might break things.

I got plenty of usage out of my launch PS4 with NFS, AC4(best AC), Injustice, Resogun and 100s of hours out of BF4, then came inFamous and Diablo 3. Probably played PS4 more in those first 6 months than I ever did Wii U.

You do know dreameye was a dud and never released outside of japan and never had any games or fraction of eyetoys functionality, then why did sony rip it off when there was no market for it. FYI back in those days R&D took longer Eye toy was in development since 1999 a year before Dreameye was released. and also before Wii PS2 already did motion gamin with the eyetoy, its just tech evolves and gets cheaper and new ways of play comes forward.. by 2004 and 05 sony 's R&D was experimenting with color based 3d wand tracking using spheres for the new eye toy to be used with PS3, as an evolution to handsfree motion which was seen on PS2. But Success of wii accelerated the development, Same goes with Vita and PSP.

If according to you DS was the first to use the touch screen and vita copied it, then by your same logic PSP was the first to use Analog stick on a gaming handheld and 3DS copied it. same with Dual analog which switch copied. 

Stop being that guy who thinks a certain company came up with something. all of these companies have similar tech under R&D they just wait for the parts to get cheaper to realize their vision with that tech and release it in the market. it just the matter of timing who comes out first to the market. Just like VR.

14% isn't crushing? Unless you're trolling then troll on. 

If Wii Crushed PS3 i'd wonder what powerful adjective you could use to describe what PS4 is doing to Wii U and XB1. 

Hmm, PC get almost all of Xbox One games and some PS4 games + its own games so yes its a good option.