Seeing as in an earlier exchange with me this same poster attempted to shift focus away from the plagiarized speech and onto the "canidate who lies constantly" I would agree with your dubiousness.  Clear to see where the agenda with this one is.

Or which is worst a canidate who is known for decieving people to line his pockets time and again

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/30/us/politics/donald-trump-institute-plagiarism.html?_r=1

Please, do not try to act as if Trump is does not have enough if not more dirt to his credit.  If anything the article I posted shows that what his wife did is very much not uncommon from what Trump himself has done with his own businesses.  So what is worst ,someone who lies about some emails or someone who has deceived people out of there money time and again, who has lied countless times to take money out of hard working people pockets to line his own.  Who own books show a history of deception to gain any advantage to make a deal.  I am not even trying to advocate Clinton but it kills me people are trying to make Trump look like the lesser of the 2 as if he is some saint or does not have a history of lying as well.

While you can look at Clinton tax documents and see where her money comes from, you are still waiting on Trump to release his which he wil not because the people who support him do not care.  They are more willing to believe how he makes his money instead of knowing.

I was just giving him the benefit of the doubt...I know about the bankrupcies. I just didn't wanna get shot down by not saying at least one good thing about the guy.

First and foremost people are acting about this because it’s very apparent that Melania Plagiarize some lines from Michelle speech.  But not only that she sat there on TV and lied that she wrote her speech.  After that every, Trump paid PR person including many other Republicans came out and tried to spin it every which way you can instead of just saying the truth.  The point is that through all of this they made themselves look incredibly bad by not owning up to the mistake and moving own.  Probably would have gain some respect by just telling the truth instead of trying to spin such an obvious lift and lie their way out of it. 

When you are hammering the other candidate about being honest, but you have a perfect opportunity to show your honesty and totally blow it, it makes you look very bad in my book.  I believe this was a perfect opportunity for the Trump campaign to show when under a situation where honesty was the correct choice they totally failed.

Woah! I didn't know he actually said that. And they're still voting for him... Maybe it's to prove a point. Sorta like "Exit Through The Gift Shop". It's a movie, please watch it if you want the moral of the story.

The picture is fine, it's the implication that isn't. Agreeing with someone that calls someone an idiot is the same as calling someone an idiot as far as I am concerned. Intent is the key here.

Either way, this is essentially backseat moderating, so it can stop right here. Feel free to continue this via PM if needed.

Fair enough.  Thank you.

That's fine by me. From my experience, it's extremely rare for someone to say quote before or after they repeat a quote verbally from something. I know alot of people who quote movies all the time and you have to pry at them to tell ya where they got it from. It's a very annoying inside joke so to speak especially if you don't know where it's from but they somehow expect you to get it. I understand that my experience is limited and that it likely doesn't show the truth of it but it's what I got at the moment.  

I'm sure that no one thinks trump is a saint or says that he is but many people do think he's the lesser of two evils or that he actually what the US needs. I'm willing to debate with ya via pm if ya like but the amount of replies I'm getting from this thread keeps bringing back here when I want to move on. Explaining my points over and over to several users just feels like I'm repeating myself. 

Have you ever learned about Eleanor Roosevelt? She may be a rare example but I'd argue she did more for the country and world than all but a few US presidents.

what is quoting without making it apparent you are quoting called? plagiarizing

oh here is the PC police, "Trump is telling it like it is" - quote from too many republican vote to list them all