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That the masses lack the vision to understand the benefit of things like the gamepad to core gaming and pathetic advertising doesn't help.

That side-stepping your rivals pissing contests might feel good but it doesn't help with the teenage market.

That third parties do matter to your appearance even if historically they don't actually sell or score as well as your stuff, even when exclusive and from hard workers.



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I hope they learned not to trust the 'core' gamer. They claim that Nintendo needs 3rd party support, then when they get it, refuse to buy it. Then they scream for new IPs, but then buy Mario and Link. They screamed that they hated Wind Waker and years later love it. They don't know what they want and will waste their money on anything.

I hope they realize that most of those people are actually rooting for Nintendo's destruction and that Nintendo needs to do its own thing and make their games with the thought that they will never get AAA 3rd party support again.



bunchanumbers said:
I hope they learned not to trust the 'core' gamer. They claim that Nintendo needs 3rd party support, then when they get it, refuse to buy it. Then they scream for new IPs, but then buy Mario and Link. They screamed that they hated Wind Waker and years later love it. They don't know what they want and will waste their money on anything.

I hope they realize that most of those people are actually rooting for Nintendo's destruction and that Nintendo needs to do its own thing and make their games with the thought that they will never get AAA 3rd party support again.


It's not a "trust" issue. Sony and MS beat Nintendo fair and square for that audience and Nintendo knows they can't win them back (or that it's too much work for them to even try). 

"Doing their own thing" isn't really even a choice at this point, they have no other options left. 



the wii was actually innovative; the wii u was a "me too" product that tried to cash in on the tablet craze. i hope they learned from that.



Twilord said:
That the masses lack the vision to understand the benefit of things like the gamepad to core gaming and pathetic advertising doesn't help.

That side-stepping your rivals pissing contests might feel good but it doesn't help with the teenage market.

That third parties do matter to your appearance even if historically they don't actually sell or score as well as your stuff, even when exclusive and from hard workers.


Apparently Nintendo's own dev teams lack the vision to understand the gamepad too, as 3/4 of their own internal games barely use the gamepad in any type of interesting way. I mean seriously, the most inventive use they could think of for it in Mario Kart was this:

Which is hillarious. Giant horn. 



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Nintendo need to buy developers like Platinum, and maybe a few indies who might be 'up for' the retail scene with some guidance. Become an industry onto themselves; they are well capable of it.



Oh I will add I think they definitely learned this gen

- Expensive gimmick controllers are a no-no. Miyamoto will probably get to make another gimmick controller for the next "console" (which will just be the handheld chipset on steroids for TV play), but they won't allow for such an expensive standard controller ever again. Even the 3D screen in the 3DS, I think they regret that as it made the system more expensive than it had to be and is a feature that never really took off like wildfire. 

- The PowerPC/heavily customized chipset thing is probably going to go out the door too. The hardware cost killed them this gen.



In all honesty, I don't think they've learned anything



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Twilord said:
Nintendo need to buy developers like Platinum, and maybe a few indies who might be 'up for' the retail scene with some guidance. Become an industry onto themselves; they are well capable of it.

Buying Platinum? God, no, what a terrible idea. 



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

Not sure they've learned anything until I see what they do with their next console.