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uran10 said:
Farsala said:
The tax situation in Japan is a serious matter. It put Japan in a worse recession. It will likely affect elections, with abe not having as much support.

Reasons:
1: Tax increases are rare in Japan.
2: The Tax increase was quite sizeable, and coupled with 1 makes it worse.
3: The Tax increase was across the board, unlike in lots of western countries where you can buy food without much tax.

They are at 8% and people fear 10% will come, which is only half of major european countries.


I've been saying that taxes killed wii U momentum... wii U was constantly above 10k before it hit for this year.


Some have attributed slowing iPhone sales in Japan to taxes but is this tax really high enough to affect consoles in the same way? Most home consoles are like half the price of a new smartphone. I think the Wii U's momentum, and every other home console for that matter, is simply down to lack of interest in the home console format and this decline has been going on for a long time and certainly way before the tax issue, it appears to be only the natural cycle of the Japanese market taking its toll, in my honest opinion.

The good news could be that taxes might not be affecting home console sales, but the bad news would then be that even lowered prices and others measures taken are unlikely to spark interest since the format itself as a gaming concept has lost most traction in Japan. Even handhelds are losing relevance, the 3DS will fall way short of the 33 million of the DS and the Vita will fall miles and miles short of the PSP's 20 million, the only reason handhelds appear in good shape in Japan is that they are selling a lot more compared to other regions when counting population and market size and they are selling a lot better than home consoles, which are currently crashing completely.

I expect the Wii U to be significantly down in Japan next year and the PS4 to have its (poor) peak year in 2015 in Japan, and the One was simply never a contender in this region and shouldn't even be regarded as an option.



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Ka-pi96 said:
EricFabian said:
Kresnik said:

 

3DS : Samurai Warriors Chronicles ( Koei Tecmo ) { 2011-02-26 } - 43,044 / 155,059
3DS : Samurai Warriors Chronicles 2nd ( Koei Tecmo ) { 2012-09-13 } - 35,806 / 68,360
PSV : Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3 ( Koei Tecmo ) { 2014-12-04 } - 23,644 / 23,644
3DS : Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3 ( Koei Tecmo ) { 2014-12-04 } - 17,646 / 17,646

I hope they got the mensage this time. Samurrai Warriors needs to be 3Ds exlcusive 

I think it shows something very different actually. The 3rd game being multiplat outsold the 2nd game being exclusive. Multiplat>exclusive confirmed!

say that to ryuzaki



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Just did some quick math. N3DS has now sold 808,147! Has 3 weeks left... Can it hit 1mil?

 

It been surpassed WiiU, will surpass PS4 next week... It'll need a miracle to hit over Vita though. Not bad NEW 3E DEE Sssss!!!!!



tbone51 said:

Yes MC is superior


They don't even track digital sales!  They suck!

(But I do prefer their pie charts :P)



Wow that's disappointing....................................

Smash 3DS really hit it bad. Baffling decision by Nintendo imo.



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Kresnik said:
padib said:

I would have to dig up the numbers, but if I remember correctly Smash has been an important system seller in the past 3 iterations despite being a fanservice type game. The reason is that it's a game that gets people to play with their friends, at least it did in the past.

It's hard to tell if that effect was felt with the 3DS due to the new 3DS model and the holidays, but I will go and fetch the numbers for Brawl and Melee.

Also, Mario Kart 8 could also be considered a fan-service game. We know it sold lots of U's.


I'd imagine it was a big system seller for Gamecube, but it also released so early in the console's life that pretty much any high profile game would've shifted systems.

It looks like it wasn't a particularly big system mover for Wii during launch week in Japan.  Might've been a long term thing, but I'm not sure:

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/39481/Japan/

Wii 97,334 (+27%) 5,198,993

As for Mario Kart being a fanservice game... not really in the way that I'm describing, at least.  I can see where you're coming from (digging up old zones to race through), but I don't think it has the same pull for nostalgia that Smash has.  But that's just my opinion.

Wii was still sold out whenever Smash released. They sold through whatever was put on shelves.



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kopstudent89 said:

Wow that's disappointing....................................

Smash 3DS really hit it bad. Baffling decision by Nintendo imo.

They should have known better! :/



                
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Kresnik said:
tbone51 said:

Yes MC is superior


They don't even track digital sales!  They suck!

(But I do prefer their pie charts :P)


Lol! Famitsu is very useful when it comes to the DL cards/etc. I'll give them that :0



kopstudent89 said:

Wow that's disappointing....................................

Smash 3DS really hit it bad. Baffling decision by Nintendo imo.


depending on wat your saying, 2.25mil+ (3ds version made) is better than under 700k-900k which is wat i see SSBU doing lifetime :)



tbone51 said:
kopstudent89 said:

Wow that's disappointing....................................

Smash 3DS really hit it bad. Baffling decision by Nintendo imo.


depending on wat your saying, 2.25mil+ (3ds version made) is better than under 700k-900k which is wat i see SSBU doing lifetime :)


He's saying the 3DS version of the game existing, has seriously impacted the sales potential of the Wii U version.



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