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burninmylight on 11 July 2014
VanceIX said:
burninmylight said:
kirby007 said:
As a total noob on basketball, isn't this saying he thinks his team of the last 4 years isnt good enough?

sounds like someone wants to be carried


You can't carry the best player in the game. If he wanted to ride someone else's coattails, there are better teams he could have chosen.

Like who? Cleveland is the only team that can can afford his contract while sporting three all-stars at the same time (Irving is much better than Wade at this point in his career, and Kevin Love is an immediate upgrade over Bosh). If he stayed in Miami, he would at least have had the chance to build his legacy with one team, but history will remember his as the guy who bolted when thigs started to get a little tough. 

Oh, so we're talking about giving him the max (or near max) contract while still fielding two other all stars in this situation? Then outside of Houston, nobody except the team he's leaving. Cleveland ain't got two all stars. Love is a Timberwolf last time I checked, and the T-wolves still have him for another year if they so please. Therefore, they decide where he goes, if he goes this offseason. And like I said in another post, Cleveland can't have Kyrie , LeBron and Love all on max deals.



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VanceIX on 11 July 2014
burninmylight said:
VanceIX said:
burninmylight said:


You can't carry the best player in the game. If he wanted to ride someone else's coattails, there are better teams he could have chosen.

Like who? Cleveland is the only team that can can afford his contract while sporting three all-stars at the same time (Irving is much better than Wade at this point in his career, and Kevin Love is an immediate upgrade over Bosh). If he stayed in Miami, he would at least have had the chance to build his legacy with one team, but history will remember his as the guy who bolted when thigs started to get a little tough. 

Oh, so we're talking about giving him the max (or near max) contract while still fielding two other all stars in this situation? Then outside of Houston, nobody except the team he's leaving. Cleveland ain't got two all stars. Love is a Timberwolf last time I checked, and the T-wolves still have him for another year if they so please. Therefore, they decide where he goes, if he goes this offseason. And like I said in another post, Cleveland can't have Kyrie , LeBron and Love all on max deals.

They can if they trade Wiggins for Love, which they are actually considering, according to some sources. Even if they don't, they have an insane front-court with Irving and Wiggins (assuming they move him to SG), and Lebron in the back. They also have what is essentially an unprotected lottery pick this year from Miami. They are easily the best team in terms of potential, period.



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DolPhanTendo on 11 July 2014
burninmylight said:
DolPhanTendo said:
brighat said:
Why does the NBA have this obsession with having Cleveland being home to the elite? Seems like th  power in their league. Two consecutive wins in the lottery and now LeBron? Something screwy is going on...


NBA has been fixed for years reason why i havent watched a game in 9 years

So you haven't watched is  game in almost a decade, yet you feel qualified to discuss it.

Why would the NBA be obsessedCleveland  Cleveland? No one can just accept that the lottery may be possibly, unbelievable, improbably RANDOM. There will be some that are extremely lucky, and some that are cursed. Normal sports fans say the NBA is biased toward large markets. This is the first I've ever heard someone say the NBA is biased toward little ass Cleveland.

Also, what is so unbelievable about LeBron wanting to go back to where he started? Get this people: HE'S NOT A ROBOT! He's a human being. You think he's not self-aware? He's very concious of all the venom and vitriol sent his way the past few years after The Decision. He's very aware of how he left the Cavs in shambles. He's very much tied to the community in Akron, where he spent his entire life before the NBA. His wife wants to raise their family in Ohio, close to home and family.

Hahahahahahhahahahaha. Hold on Hahahahahahaha. Dude wanted to be HOME then he should of stayed 4 years ago. Its been only 4 years and he left because he cant LEAD teams to championships.*see Tim Duncan. This guy Lebron has been annointed by MEDIA AND PRESS  the greatest since high school so he feels he can do whatever he wants with no reprecutions. The guy thinks he is the NBA reason why he has ellobarted decisons on where he is going. When Clevland never wins he will go down in history as one of the biggest turds. NO WAY NEAR JORDAN STATUS



DolPhanTendo on 11 July 2014
VanceIX said:
burninmylight said:
VanceIX said:
kirby007 said:
As a total noob on basketball, isn't this saying he thinks his team of the last 4 years isnt good enough?

sounds like someone wants to be carried

Yes. He's talking about how he wants to put his city over basketball, but there's absolutely no way he would have gone to Cleveland if they didn't have Kyrie Irving and on the verge of getting Kevin Love. He's just switching to whichever team will get him a championship, instead of staying put and building his own legacy. 

This just in: good basketball players want to play with other good basketball players to give them the best chance to win. By the way, if he signs for max money, they wouldn't be able to sign Kevin Love, who will no doubt want to get paid as well. The Cavs just signed Irving to a 90$ million contract.

MJ and Kobe, along with Magic Johnson, Kareem, etc. all played for pretty much one team their entire careers, and when they did leave it wasn't because they saw greener pastures. Kareem was traded, Magic got AIDS, Kobe is still with the Lakers even though they suck, and Michael Jordan left to play baseball. They built their own legacies through persistence, not insta-championships. Lebron is the definition of a mercenary, while the other people who have gone down as the greatest were very loyal and stayed many, many years with their teams.


Dont forget Larry Bird, Hakeem Ojauwan,and Tim Duncan in these talks as well. 



burninmylight on 11 July 2014
VanceIX said:
burninmylight said:
VanceIX said:
kirby007 said:
As a total noob on basketball, isn't this saying he thinks his team of the last 4 years isnt good enough?

sounds like someone wants to be carried

Yes. He's talking about how he wants to put his city over basketball, but there's absolutely no way he would have gone to Cleveland if they didn't have Kyrie Irving and on the verge of getting Kevin Love. He's just switching to whichever team will get him a championship, instead of staying put and building his own legacy. 

This just in: good basketball players want to play with other good basketball players to give them the best chance to win. By the way, if he signs for max money, they wouldn't be able to sign Kevin Love, who will no doubt want to get paid as well. The Cavs just signed Irving to a 90$ million contract.

MJ and Kobe, along with Magic Johnson, Kareem, etc. all played for pretty much one team their entire careers, and when they did leave it wasn't because they saw greener pastures. Kareem was traded, Magic got AIDS, Kobe is still with the Lakers even though they suck, and Michael Jordan left to play baseball. They built their own legacies through persistence, not insta-championships. Lebron is the definition of a mercenary, while the other people who have gone down as the greatest were very loyal and stayed many, many years with their teams.

Kobe demanded the Lakers trade him at one point, and was almost a Bull. MJ was a Wizard for two years. But you can excuse those.

Kareem started his first few years in Milwaukee, and even won a championship there. He demanded the Bucks trade him to LA (greener pastures?), even though they were one of the greatest teams of the era. LeBron has never demanded a trade and has only left a team as an unrestricted free agent. So by your logic, Kareem should be remembered less fondly than LeBron, and Kobe was almost a quitter. I'd like to see your excuse on that one.

Oh, I almost forgot! Kobe refused to work out for a bunch of teams as a draft prospect. Him and his agent purposefully tried to move him away from certain teams, even if it meant moving down further in the draft. When he was selected by Charlotte, he asked to be traded, so Charlotte worked out the deal to get him in LA. What about that?



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Solid-Stark on 11 July 2014

I'm very shocked. Even with all the rumors, I didn't see any real good reason to leave Miami as it was a team that could stay a championship contender.Cleveland is surely a playoff team now, but I wouldn't say a legit championship contender yet. The whole team isn't at the level Miami had been the last three seasons. But if the Kevin Love trade goes through, they will be. But still some concern for the bench.

Now for Miami, If they don't sign any big name then they will likely return to their pre big three era where they couldn't get passed the first round, and 5-6th seed. They can wait but I'd say offer Gasol and Deng short term 10m deals, and convince Bosh to stick around. All in all Heat can still make moves and get this look.
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Bench: Granger, Anderson, Allen, Cole, McRobberts, Oden, Beasley, Napier.



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BMaker11 on 11 July 2014
burninmylight said:
VanceIX said:
kirby007 said:
As a total noob on basketball, isn't this saying he thinks his team of the last 4 years isnt good enough?

sounds like someone wants to be carried

Yes. He's talking about how he wants to put his city over basketball, but there's absolutely no way he would have gone to Cleveland if they didn't have Kyrie Irving and on the verge of getting Kevin Love. He's just switching to whichever team will get him a championship, instead of staying put and building his own legacy. 

This just in: good basketball players want to play with other good basketball players to give them the best chance to win. By the way, if he signs for max money, they wouldn't be able to sign Kevin Love, who will no doubt want to get paid as well. The Cavs just signed Irving to a 90$ million contract.

Yea, but there's a difference between joining the best in order to win rings, and building up the best to win rings. What did Jordan say? "I wanted to beat the best, not join them" and "There's no way that in hindsight now, I would have ever called up Larry, called up Magic, and said "hey, let's get together and play on one team." And before anyone says Jordan had Pippen and Rodman, Pippen was a draft pick and Rodman was 35 when he traded to the Bulls.

Anyway, of course players want to play with players that give them a chance to win. But it says more to your legacy (and your character) if you build a team to win, instead of making an All-Star team as your only means of winning. Otherwise, why don't Chris Paul, Kobe, LeBron, Blake Griffin, and Dwight Howard take some paycuts, come together, make a super team, and win 6 championships in a row? No way anyone looks at that kind of team with any kind of ire.

You'll win championships that way, but you won't win respect. Not that these guys that are on top of the world favor our respect more than the paycheck, the fame, and the winning seasons, but I know I wouldn't want everyone looking at my career with an asteriks mark next to it



Chris Hu on 11 July 2014

Not a very smart move I doubt he will get any more rings in Cleveland.



DolPhanTendo on 11 July 2014
burninmylight said:
DolPhanTendo said:
This right here proves je is a self center EGOtistical jack ass and is the reason NBA is 5th most popular sport here in the U.S. This puts him no where near Jordan comparison and Damn I cant stand him.

Care to explain? By the way, the NBA is #2.


By the it is 5th most popular behind the NFL, MLB, College Football, and Nascar, in that order. Sorry do not have explain his actions explain it all



burninmylight on 11 July 2014
DolPhanTendo said:
burninmylight said:
DolPhanTendo said:
brighat said:
Why does the NBA have this obsession with having Cleveland being home to the elite? Seems like th  power in their league. Two consecutive wins in the lottery and now LeBron? Something screwy is going on...


NBA has been fixed for years reason why i havent watched a game in 9 years

So you haven't watched is  game in almost a decade, yet you feel qualified to discuss it.

Why would the NBA be obsessedCleveland  Cleveland? No one can just accept that the lottery may be possibly, unbelievable, improbably RANDOM. There will be some that are extremely lucky, and some that are cursed. Normal sports fans say the NBA is biased toward large markets. This is the first I've ever heard someone say the NBA is biased toward little ass Cleveland.

Also, what is so unbelievable about LeBron wanting to go back to where he started? Get this people: HE'S NOT A ROBOT! He's a human being. You think he's not self-aware? He's very concious of all the venom and vitriol sent his way the past few years after The Decision. He's very aware of how he left the Cavs in shambles. He's very much tied to the community in Akron, where he spent his entire life before the NBA. His wife wants to raise their family in Ohio, close to home and family.

Hahahahahahhahahahaha. Hold on Hahahahahahaha. Dude wanted to be HOME then he should of stayed 4 years ago. Its been only 4 years and he left because he cant LEAD teams to championships.*see Tim Duncan. This guy Lebron has been annointed by MEDIA AND PRESS  the greatest since high school so he feels he can do whatever he wants with no reprecutions. The guy thinks he is the NBA reason why he has ellobarted decisons on where he is going. When Clevland never wins he will go down in history as one of the biggest turds. NO WAY NEAR JORDAN STATUS


But he has two finals MVP awards... You woudn't know though, because you don't watch basketball. You still think baseball and NASCAR are more popular. Do you still check the paper for last night's box scores?