PS4 no doubt about it.

World wide I still see the PS4 winning, but the gap will be much less than if Microsoft had stuck with $499 model for another year.

Xbox will probably start winning in the US and UK now. Not much hope for mainland Europe and Japan. Of course I hope I'm wrong.

So many optimists here.
Word of Mouth and exposure means a lot more than brand loyalty.
Last gen is as meaningless as 6th gen.

Ps4 will win everywhere except the US which will be a draw. Not a chance the price will change things in UK it's way worse value now. It's a pity really had they gone to 299 and flung in halo 2 remake I'd certainly buy one.

Global = PS4
USA + the UK of GB and NI = PS4

Thats how I see it. As time goes on momentum will keep swinging the PS4s way.

I also have a feeling that the Kinectless bundle might come across as the "arcade edition". sales split will probably be 60-40 between sku versions.

I always believed that the One would take NA and UK, this is a belief I still hold. However; on a global scale, the PS4 will still take the win in all likelihood since it has a strong presence in most of Europe and the One will be irrelevant in Japan, the 7-9 million or so the PS4 will sell in Japan will make some difference in the total lifetime tally. Not to mention that the gap in US should be quite a bit smaller than the PS3 - 360 ever was.
I wrote in the UNITY thread that without the Kinect fudging up the One's market aim through forced market convergence, the two consoles would be striving for likeness and the installed base would be equally similar, that's still on at this point imo.

I also said that Kinect would never become a proper gaming device and won't go far beyond interface functionality and should thus be dropped as a mandatory pack-in, the former is looking increasingly likely and the latter is already happening.

The One and Wii U shared one similar problem at launch; a bipolar identity, and the price wasn't doing the xbox any favors either. The main difference is that if MS drops the Kinect; there is still a saleable product underneath, whereas the Gamepad is, as a proper paradox, the one thing that makes the Wii U set itself apart at all and prevents it from becoming a slightly better alternative to PS360 or a very bleak one to PS4/One is also the very essence of the console's issues from the beginning; no clear market indentity and thus no proper demographic aim.

PS4 all around, no contest anywhere.

The X1 was sitting at 400 during the Titanfall release month in most huge retailers and still didn't manage to pull ahead of the PS4. Now there's no more Titanfall and they still remove the camera, why would that boost the sales beyond the PS4 levels? Please...

I completely agree. Actually, I think that MS dropping Kinect is great news for all PS4 users as well.

No clue. A coin flip I just made says PS4 so I'll pick that.