Lol, no way Zelda gets released in 2014. Though I hope you are correct. I want a new game to play on my Wii U.

I know it's up to the consumer. I meant Nintendo has to market it and lower the price before everyone says there is no return. It could very well continue to sell like it has been but that's yet to be seen.

I think that the average person doesn't know it exists. I own a Wii U and when my family or friends come over, many of them don't understand what a Wii U is. Why would they? If they aren't big gamers, where would they have seen it? 

I agree that the gamers know what it is but just don't care. That is a problem of both price and games that aren't platformers. Even the Nintendo fanbase has little reason to buy it so far if they like the other types of games Nintendo normally offers but hasn't yet for Wii U.

As I said in a post above, it didn't go back to the higher price because the retailer discontinued it. It failed to lift sales.

The price cut Nintendo did didn't lift sales either.

There were like 80 gameboys or w/e, didn't stop Gamecube selling bad did it. The problem with WiiU is it doesn't have a casual hook and doesn't compete with Sony/MS on a core level. You get a WiiU if you like Nintendo games, which pretty much means Nintendo fans like I've said.

Gees, people have to stop saying it's marketing and teething problems, we're 18 months in, that is beyond long enough for a product to get noticed.

super mario 3d world, and pikmin 3 and nintendoland before that. and got leg city and w101 as exclusives. and X, bayonetta 2, zelda, mario kart + others are on the way.

you said so much random stuff thet i didn't get half of it. and you still haven't answered the thread's question.

what more marketing could they do? there are commercials, ads what more? Lower the price, they could do that but they are already not making money on the system they would start losing money if they lower the price. Im going under the assmption that they will not add more marketing or lower the price, so i dont see why it would get an uptick outside of Mario kart and holidays

They could see it in Gamestop, Best Buy, Target, Walmart, etc. those arent some small chain stores they are huge. So yes i do think most people at least have seen one, but they simply dont care, its the opposite effect of Wii. Price isnt a problem of not caring. If they cared and it was too expensive they would wait for price drops, that didnt really increase WIi U fortunes when they did one, so i can only conclude price is not an issue its the product. PS4 xone support this as they are much more expensive and are doing much better. So it cant be the price unless even the Ninty faithful dont think Ninty systems are above a certain value.

I think it's because those two games have proven in the past to be Nintendo's biggest system sellers.

Exactly, despite wiiu's dry future! Hopefully nintendo are going to pull some guns out for E3 and hve some releases planned out for 2nd half of 2014.

They did do this before in the past (big games announced with 3-6 months later releases)

What so you think they can announce that will sell systems?

Surely they have/had all bases covered. Smash, 2D Mario, 3D Mario, Mario Kart and Donkey Kong along with several Wii titles released/releasing.

It's like saying. Well Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable & Titanfall haven't worked selling XB1 but Alan Wake 2 will do the trick?

Because while Nintendo has some fantastic exclusives like MK8 and SSB, Xbox has that AND a bunch of big multiplatform games that are going to help move systems.  Sure MK8 and SSB are going to give the Wii U a "Titanfall like" boost to sales, but the Xbox One is going to get a lot of small boost every time Multiplats like WatchDogs, Wolfenstein, Destiny, Evolve, Cod, AC Unity, Batman Arkem Knight ect. comes out.

Sure you could argue that the PS4 will see bigger boost form Multiplatform titles, but If you want to compair the Wii U to the PS4, than you might want to account for Sony's 16 Studios making PS4 exclusives (in which case the PS4 would slaughter the wii U in compairison), and the X1 will get boost from these games regaurdless.  And in adition to thoes small bumps, It will get some bigger boost from it's own exclusives such as Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, and the next Halo/HA2.

Of coarse you could argue that the Wii U has more games comming out like X, Bayonetta, or Zelda, but realistically thoes games are likely not even comming until next year, and even then, just how many consoles is a game like Beyonetta goiung to move?  

So yeah, thats why people act like that is all the Wii U has because the other games don't have a release date and so many assume that they will all be next year, and it has practically no multiplatform support.