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Zero999 said:

it's good to leave them in the vacumm of speechlessness by destroying the delusions they call arguments.

It doesn't change anything because they don't respond to logic when they are not being logical. It's like giving sugar to a person who hates sugar. It won't yield any result.

The best vaccum for them is disinterest.



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digitalnasties said:
happydolphin said:
Nintendo doesn't need 3rd parties like Bethesda, simply put.

You must of played Wheelspin too.

That game had the potential to be a spiritual successor to Rollcage.

Anyone who fucks up a thing so badly as that does not deserve to sit in Iwata's Hot Tub.



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Zero999 said:
oniyide said:
wait...zero doesnt even OWN a WIi U? now thats funny. THat is some faux faith for you right there.

because myself owning a wii u or not changes what exactly?

if you have so much faith in the system? Why dont you have one?



oniyide said:
Zero999 said:
oniyide said:
wait...zero doesnt even OWN a WIi U? now thats funny. THat is some faux faith for you right there.

because myself owning a wii u or not changes what exactly?

if you have so much faith in the system? Why dont you have one?

first of all, saying the system will suceed is merely analysing the facts. any person with or without interest in a certain product can analyse it's situation. I can predict the next ipad to sell millions but having no intetion of purchasing one, for example. this is just one of many distortions you people love to throw when you run out of excuses.

either way, I DO want a wii u but I can't afford one yet.



Zero999 said:
oniyide said:
Zero999 said:
oniyide said:
wait...zero doesnt even OWN a WIi U? now thats funny. THat is some faux faith for you right there.

because myself owning a wii u or not changes what exactly?

if you have so much faith in the system? Why dont you have one?

first of all, saying the system will suceed is merely analysing the facts. any person with or without interest in a certain product can analyse it's situation. I can predict the next ipad to sell millions but having no intetion of purchasing one, for example. this is just one of many distortions you people love to throw when you run out of excuses.

either way, I DO want a wii u but I can't afford one yet.

its been out for months and various retailers have been selling it discounted for some time, but yet you cant afford one? ok

and no one said it wouldnt succeed, cause no one even knows what succeed is. It wont be doing Wii numbers so thats out the question. 



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oniyide said:
Zero999 said:
oniyide said:

if you have so much faith in the system? Why dont you have one?

first of all, saying the system will suceed is merely analysing the facts. any person with or without interest in a certain product can analyse it's situation. I can predict the next ipad to sell millions but having no intetion of purchasing one, for example. this is just one of many distortions you people love to throw when you run out of excuses.

either way, I DO want a wii u but I can't afford one yet.

its been out for months and various retailers have been selling it discounted for some time, but yet you cant afford one? ok

and no one said it wouldnt succeed, cause no one even knows what succeed is. It wont be doing Wii numbers so thats out the question. 

I think my word has more credibility than yours in regard to my financial situation.

you are ridiculously insinuating that not having an wii u should forbid me of talking positive things about it.

and no, wii numbers aren't out of the question, the game has just started.



Cobretti2 said:
Scoobes said:
Carl2291 said:
Daisuke72 said:

Or maybe they don't want to compromise their vision by putting it on weak hardware and dumbing it down?


You mean, like how they did when they released games on the PS3 and 360?

When they made the engines for those games the PS3 and 360 were new and the most powerful consoles available. There's a reason (actually, probably 2 reasons) why Morrowind never made it to PS2 even though it had the largest user base.

OT: Completely expected. If they release the same games (from PC/PS4/X1) on PS3/360 but not WiiU then there's obviously a non-hardware issue, but I see no reason not to believe them until someone proves otherwise.

Edit- Just realised the games in the OP are also coming to PS3/360, so this isn't solely a hardware issue.

LIke the next wolfenstein games?

Did you see my edit (it's even in the quoted post, lol)? I realised after I posted that the games in the OP were also coming to PS3/360. So yes, for those games, hardware isn't the only issue.



Scoobes said:
Cobretti2 said:
Scoobes said:
Carl2291 said:
Daisuke72 said:

Or maybe they don't want to compromise their vision by putting it on weak hardware and dumbing it down?


You mean, like how they did when they released games on the PS3 and 360?

When they made the engines for those games the PS3 and 360 were new and the most powerful consoles available. There's a reason (actually, probably 2 reasons) why Morrowind never made it to PS2 even though it had the largest user base.

OT: Completely expected. If they release the same games (from PC/PS4/X1) on PS3/360 but not WiiU then there's obviously a non-hardware issue, but I see no reason not to believe them until someone proves otherwise.

Edit- Just realised the games in the OP are also coming to PS3/360, so this isn't solely a hardware issue.

LIke the next wolfenstein games?

Did you see my edit (it's even in the quoted post, lol)? I realised after I posted that the games in the OP were also coming to PS3/360. So yes, for those games, hardware isn't the only issue.


elder scrolls online isn't coming to ps3/360 



oniyide said:
they did a crap job with the PS3 version of Skyrim everything they've released on PS3 except Dishonored, which wasn't Bethesda developed, so im not even sure what they mean by hardware issues, do they just not feel like trying to learn the WIi U?


fixed. They don't care about the WiiU audience. Plain and simple.



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Zero999 said:
Scoobes said:

When they made the engines for those games the PS3 and 360 were new and the most powerful consoles available. There's a reason (actually, probably 2 reasons) why Morrowind never made it to PS2 even though it had the largest user base.

OT: Completely expected. If they release the same games (from PC/PS4/X1) on PS3/360 but not WiiU then there's obviously a non-hardware issue, but I see no reason not to believe them until someone proves otherwise.

Edit- Just realised the games in the OP are also coming to PS3/360, so this isn't solely a hardware issue.

wrong, there is no hardware issue. anything made with ps4/xone in mind can be ported to wii u.

That's completely dependent on the game and engine in question. We've yet to see any games that make any use of the PS4/X1 architecture, let alone titles that are actually coded effciently for the three consoles. You then have the question of how much work a port would actually be and how much the developers would have to tone down the graphics, physics, size and interactivity to get the game to run smoothly. Or what sort of concessions the developers might have to make.

Porting down to weaker hardware often means making concessions. Take the original Deus Ex for instance; the levels are half the size of the original game seriously impacting the potential enjoyment of the game.

Whilst a port for a hypothetical game might be possible, if it significantly impacts the final product in a negative way (the "hardware issue") or if the effort to port the game isn't cost effective, then the developer isn't going to bother.