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I'll take the jump from 2D to 3D or Standard Def to High Def any day over High Def to Better High Def.



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CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:
Arguably the 4th to 5th generation (SNES-N64) or the 6th to 7th generation (PS2-PS3) had much, much bigger leaps. These games will look nicer and run smoother, yes, but will it really be as big a leap from a gameplay perspective as 2D-3D or SD-HD? I really don't think so, and I don't expect anyone else does either.

Well, as I'm trying to convey, it may not be apparent to the average person, but the leap from the 7th-to-8th may actually be bigger than the PS2-to-PS3.

From a graphical and technological standpoint, I'd agree. But from a gameplay standpoint, I don't.

 

So it depends on which side and on what you consider "next-gen" to be.



 

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It's a bigger leap than I was expecting, but still not quite the leap that older generations had. After seeing Killzone: Shadow Fall, I can't wait to see what other devs can achieve on it too. I want to see Battlefield 4.



CGI-Quality said:
kain_kusanagi said:
CGI-Quality said:

2D-to-3D was a specific leap. SD-to-HD was a specific leap. However, the latter was a bigger leap, to me, because games, lietrally, went from a decent image to pristine. The kind of jump that I expect from PS3-to-PS4 / 360-to-720, however, is the one I hoped for with the 7th gen.

The next time we'll see a move to anything like 2D-to-3D is when games move to real time ray tracing, voxels, and full tessellation mapping. That is still, at least, a gen or two away.


By the time the next next gen brings real time ray tracing, voxels and full tessellation mappings I think art design and clever coders will have already raised the bar.  What I mean is that games will continue to look better and better throughout the next gen and when the next next gen comes we will again be saying that the leap isn't as big as expected.

Only because they won't truly grasp what goes on behind the scenes. I'll give them that. It was easier to see the leaps of 2D-to-3D and SD-to-HD, then it will be (for many) to see the true impact of a fully ray traced, voxelized, tessellated title.

Sure. But I can't say it really matters to the eye what's going on behind the scene. Now with that said, when the gen comes with the really impressive tech games will start to evolve. The first ones won't look much better than the best of the best of the previous gen, but as time goes on the new tech will do amazing things that will impress even those who don't "truly grasp what goes on behind the scenes".



Conegamer said:
CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:
Arguably the 4th to 5th generation (SNES-N64) or the 6th to 7th generation (PS2-PS3) had much, much bigger leaps. These games will look nicer and run smoother, yes, but will it really be as big a leap from a gameplay perspective as 2D-3D or SD-HD? I really don't think so, and I don't expect anyone else does either.

Well, as I'm trying to convey, it may not be apparent to the average person, but the leap from the 7th-to-8th may actually be bigger than the PS2-to-PS3.

From a graphical and technological standpoint, I'd agree. But from a gameplay standpoint, I don't.

 

So it depends on which side and on what you consider "next-gen" to be.

Gameplay doesn't need to change, we've been playing games the same way for decades. What really matters are graphical and technical improvements. We will see better graphics, bigger worlds and better AI, these themselves will lead to better gameplay possibilities.



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mtu9356 said:
I'll take the jump from 2D to 3D or Standard Def to High Def any day over High Def to Better High Def.

you realize high def could just as easily be called better def right?  High def is just a label for 720p and above.  Like others have stated look at first gen games compared to other first gen games on a console not the last games on one compared to the first ones on another.  MGS1 to MGS2 showed what PS2 could do.  SM64 to Sunshine showed what GC could do.  Halo 1 to Gears showed what 360 could do.  These are the kind of comparisons to make.




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Eh... I really doubt that.Unfortunatley the law of diminishing returns has been plaguing games for a while now. We need far more power now adays to see a small perceivable jump in graphics than we did 10 or even 20 years ago. So while the jump in power may the the biggest (arguable if you ask me) the leap in graphics will not be so. Yes they will look better no doubt about that but I highly doubt it will be as crazy as the leap from PS1-PS2 N64 to GC.

For all you saying it will DO you even REMEMBER how terrible the graphics for the N64 and the playstation 1 were compared to modern day? I mean really? Just go look at them and then tell me the jump from 5th Gen to 6th Gen wasnt INCREDIBLE.



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brendude13 said:
It's a bigger leap than I was expecting, but still not quite the leap that older generations had. After seeing Killzone: Shadow Fall, I can't wait to see what other devs can achieve on it too. I want to see Battlefield 4.

ND and SSM have me giddy after playing GoW Ascension and seeing LoU




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People are taking that PS4 hype too far.



Max King of the Wild said:
Netyaroze you forgot particles in your list of improvements. Rain, snow, dust, mist... will be enhanced.


Yeah its all about the physic models this time.

We had 2D-3D, SD-HD, now its static scenery-dynamic complex scenery