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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - 360 now ~50 Milion Over Original Xbox, SW almost 500m Over.

DieAppleDie said:
the day ive feared most has reached
if Msoft gets control over the console market, count me out, no jk


What if Apple gets control over the market? What then?



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DieAppleDie said:
i wont buy a Msoft console ever, just that, and he did not understand your post by the way

wait, i quoted him, he wrote i understood him (what i did) and you still... this is epic fail :)



nothing less then impressive



kowenicki said:
Dallinor said:

While the 360 has done terrific this gen and established itself as a household name, the probability of most hardware manufactures exceeding the original xbox in sales with a second go, especially given the fact that it was essentially cast aside and resources put to getting a successor out early, is very high I'd think. More so given that unlike Sega for example, MS could afford to take a massive hit to keep pushing it's foot in the door.

As for these percentage growth figures, I mean if you fail once at something, then succeed, the difference is obviously going to be much greater. While highlighting the success of the 360, this thread also puts a spotlight on the Xbox and just how poor it's sales were.

If a void was created after the dominance of the PS2 era, then Nintendo squeezed more into that gap this gen I suppose.


Fail?  They came second last gen.  Selling more than Nintendo did with the game cube in the US, Europe and Globally.

The attempts at underplaying what the 360 has achieved are embarrassing.

They sold 24m units, saying they came second is a bit disingenous.

No attempts to underplay the 360's acheivements. I said it has done terrific. If that's all you can latch on to you've missed my point entirely.



 

kowenicki said:
Dallinor said:
kowenicki said:
Dallinor said:

While the 360 has done terrific this gen and established itself as a household name, the probability of most hardware manufactures exceeding the original xbox in sales with a second go, especially given the fact that it was essentially cast aside and resources put to getting a successor out early, is very high I'd think. More so given that unlike Sega for example, MS could afford to take a massive hit to keep pushing it's foot in the door.

As for these percentage growth figures, I mean if you fail once at something, then succeed, the difference is obviously going to be much greater. While highlighting the success of the 360, this thread also puts a spotlight on the Xbox and just how poor it's sales were.

If a void was created after the dominance of the PS2 era, then Nintendo squeezed more into that gap this gen I suppose.


Fail?  They came second last gen.  Selling more than Nintendo did with the game cube in the US, Europe and Globally.

The attempts at underplaying what the 360 has achieved are embarrassing.

They sold 24m units, saying they came second is a bit disingenous.

No attempts to underplay the 360's acheivements. I said it has done terrific. If that's all you can latch on to you've missed my point entirely.

No. It's not disingenuous. It's a fact. 

They beat one of the giants of video gaming sending them in to third place.  That's not failure. It's a start. 

By disingenous I meant simply pointing out they took 2nd place wasn't painting the full picture. They had an absolutely tiny install base, they didn't hinder or compete on the same level with the PS2 (which was their primary goal) they made no money and they discontinued the console after a very short run. They beat Nintendo at their weakest in 17 years, I suppose you could chalk that down as a victory.



 

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Dallinor said:

While the 360 has done terrific this gen and established itself as a household name, the probability of most hardware manufactures exceeding the original xbox in sales with a second go, especially given the fact that it was essentially cast aside and resources put to getting a successor out early, is very high I'd think. More so given that unlike Sega for example, MS could afford to take a massive hit to keep pushing it's foot in the door.

As for these percentage growth figures, I mean if you fail once at something, then succeed, the difference is obviously going to be much greater. While highlighting the success of the 360, this thread also puts a spotlight on the Xbox and just how poor it's sales were.

If a void was created after the dominance of the PS2 era, then Nintendo squeezed more into that gap this gen I suppose.


The feat is not just that they exceeded the original Xbox, it's that they exceeded it by so much. You talk as if this was expected and is no big deal. No one expected MS to put this much of a stamp on this generation. Also, where did MS fail with the 1st Xbox? It sold over 20,000,000 units and wasn't even the last place console last generation. You could say that compared to the PS2 they failed but do you honestly think MS planned on going toe to toe and toppling Sony with one console? Their goal was to replace the Playstation brand as the cool brand and to be the device used in homes for entertainment once people shifted away from the PC. They're making great strides on both of those goals but neither are something they were going to accomplish in one generation.

Nintendo did better this generation. That doesn't take away from the success MS had though.