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PullusPardus said:
Aldro said:

Seriously, is anyone else baffled by the amount of shit Sony is putting out the past.. 


DOEZ THAT MEAN UNCHART-

 

Just kidding! just kidding!

 

Ontopic

they actually made more than that, ALOT more,  i have every single first party game released , when i get a console i buy all it's exclusives


I doubt you have every exclusive PS3 game.



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x_DMX_x said:
PullusPardus said:
Aldro said:

Seriously, is anyone else baffled by the amount of shit Sony is putting out the past.. 


DOEZ THAT MEAN UNCHART-

 

Just kidding! just kidding!

 

Ontopic

they actually made more than that, ALOT more,  i have every single first party game released , when i get a console i buy all it's exclusives


I doubt you have every exclusive PS3 game.


i do, why do you doubt it?



Michael-5 said:
o_O.Q said:
Michael-5 said:
o_O.Q said:
Michael-5 said:
 

For first party, Sony had 9 non Move exclusives in 2011, 13 in 2010, and 9 in 2011. 5 is basically half of Sony's worst year, and one was just announced days ago.

Boutros I have no faith in Agent or Final Fantasy XIII Versus remaining exclusive, or even being PS3 titles. They have been delayed too many times, and making either game exclusive would cut profits tremendously.


where are you getting your information from?

Where else? Wikipedia! Search List of PS3 exclusives, but note some games are cancelled, but Wiki doesn't say that (e.g. Huxley and Captain Blood on 360 are never going to release, so I didn't count them...PS3 in general is spot on).


well wikipedia isn't a reliable source of info... but beyond that i'm satisfied with the line up for next year so far and i expect more games to be revaealed as we go into next year anyway

edit : " Sony had 9 non Move exclusives in 2011, 13 in 2010" that can't be right

13 non-move titles: MAG, Heavy Rain, MLB: The Show, God of War 3, Mod Nation Racers, White Knight Chronicles, Buzz, TV SuperStars, Singstar, and Gran Turismo 5.

Actually it's 10. I didn't read the games and there were 5 Move titles (Sports Champions, The Shoot, Kung Fu Rider, Start The Party, and Time Crisis). Of those 10, I only think 3 are worthy of attention.

However reading the games, many of the 2010 titles were released in Japan in 2010, and in North America in 2011, so 2011 is actually 11 games, not 9.

Either way, 5 for 2012 <<< 2009-2011 PS3 lifespan. Indication that PS3 is over the hill, and my original point. Why is anyone shocked at the amount of first party games for 2012?


thats the thing... the five you are counting is excluding games such as mlb that get yearly releases, other possible releases slated for next year and move games... thats why its an onaccurate assumption, its just too early to make claimsa bout sony's 2012 lineup this early



Aldro said:

He's just mad over the infamous list. A while ago I posted this =

 

"

A list for all of those asking about games on PS3 and X360. Both consoles offer amazing exclusive games (includes upcoming games).

My definition of exclusive:
A game that cannot be experienced anywhere else but on the platform. It is what makes this console unique. This means that games that are on the PC/PS3 eg. DC Universe is not counted, same goes for PC/360 such as Left 4 Dead.

Take the collection & remakes with a grain of salt as these are the only ways to re-experience PS2/Xbox titles thus making them not exclusive in that regard, but simply updated as a retrospective. Halo Combat Evolved is actually on the PC, but the anniversary is a remake and a damn good one so I will still have it below.

Kinect & Move titles are not included.
PSN & XBL titles are not included.

Do remember that this list are of games that are actually quite well known and recieved generally favourable reviews (there might be a few flaws here and there [Crackdown 2 and Socom 4 comes to mind].

PS3(42):

Uncharted 3
Metal Gear Solid 4
Uncharted 2
God of War 3
The Last Of Us
The Last Guardian
Twisted Metal
Killzone 3
Killzone 2
LBP2
LBP1
Gran Turismo 5
InFAMOUS 2
InFAMOUS 1
Starhawk
Warhawk
Uncharted 1
Demons Souls
Heavy Rain
Heavenly Sword
Resistance 1
Resistance 2
Resistance 3
Motorstorm 3
Motorstorm 2
Motorstorm 1
M.A.G - Massive Action Game
SOCOM 4
SOCOM:Confrontation
Valkyria Chronicles
White Knight Chronicles II
White Knight Chronicles I
Yakuza 4
Yakuza 3
Ratchet and Clank: Tools of destruction
Ratchet and Clank: A crack in time
Modnation Racers
Folklore
Disgaea 3
Disgaea 4
3D Dot Game Hero's
Yakuza: Till the End
Ar tonelico


+Collections if you missed them (4):
God of War Collection (2 Games)
God of War Origins (2 Games)
SOTC & ICO Collection (2 Games)
Jak & Daxter Collection ( 3 Games)
Ninja Gaiden Sigma (1)

+If you include Move Games. you also get(3)
Medevil Moves
Sports Champions
Sorcery

+Large Scale Demo's (1)
Gran Turismo 5: Prolouge

Xbox 360(36):
Gears of War 3
Gears of War 2
Halo 4
Halo Reach
Halo 3
Halo Wars
Halo ODST
Fable 2
Alan Wake
Crackdown 1
Crackdown 2
Forza 4
Forza 3
Forza 2
PGR4
PGR3
Perfect Dark Zero
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
Lost Odyssey
Blue Dragon
Infinite Undiscovery
Tales of Vesperia
Magna Carta 2
Kingdom Under Fire
Dead or Alive 4
Bullet Witch
DeadRising
Saints Row
Warhammer: Battle March
Project Sylpheed
Tenchu Z
Ace Combat 6
Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
Viva Pinata: Party Animals
Far Cry Instincts
Fable 2
Race Pro
Dungeon Hero


+If You Include Kinect (which has good games, several)(8)
Dance Central 1
Dance Central 2
Kinect Sports
Kinect Sports S2
Fable" The Journey
Ryse (Crytek, nuh said)
Steel Batallion: Heavy Armour
Project Draco (Rumoured it could be a Panzer Dragoon Kinect title)


+Remakes if you missed them (1):
Halo Combat Evolved Anniversary

+Console Exclusives(14)
Splinter Cell Conviction
Fable 3
The Last Remnant
Battlestations" Midway
Battlestations" Pacific
DeathSmiles
Frontlines: Fuel of War
Lost Planet: Colonies
MechWarrior
Ninja Blade
Viva Pinata
Supreme Commander
Supreme Commander 2
Warhammer: Mark of Chaos

 

Can't blame him, can you? He even went so far to post a list of titles on wikipedia nobody has even heard of.


I find it amazing that Sony is dishing out The last guardian, Starhawk, Twisted metal and what could potentitally be The last of us by next year. When comparing it to its competition, (most noticebly the 360): all it has up for store that have been announced is Halo 4. Once again, no kinect/move included, nor PSN / XBLA. Now THAT should have its own topic.. Hell im not even including Sly 5..

First of all, why must you try to keep derailing this subject and making this into a PS3 vs. 360 thing? Who cares about PS3 vs. 360, it's a stupid debate. I sent you a PM with a list of over 100 360 exclusives, and I can't beleive you forgot all the great JRPG exclusives on 360. I'll name some big ones to populate your list.....even added some to PS3

I cut out SOCOM Confrontation, lets not start to include crap. I left out lots of crap like Genji and Ninty Nine Knights.

In total, wikipedia says the 360 has 129 exclusive games, PLUS 79 console exclusives (which I consider exclusive since I have run Linex and would have to buy a Microsoft platform to play those games). PS3 has 109 exclusives (20 less), PLUS 90 console exclusives (11 more), so overall 9 less (20 by your definition).

Of the games worth playing PS3 has a total of 42 exclusives + 3 Moves games according to your definition of an exclusive, and 360 has 36 + 8 Kinect games. However if we actually look at what 360 has to offer over PS3, there are 12 more console exclusives on the 360, but 5 more collections/remakes on PS3.

Total 53 exclusive titles on PS3, 59 on 360.

Is this a big difference, and does anyone care? Only you.

"Its twice the amount of 360's exclusive THIS year and 4x the amount of 360's exclusives next year judging from now (with the list provided above). Ouch?"

Chech your math, 5 is not great then 5 (360 exclusives of 2011) which wa a weak year for Microsoft. Also 5 is not greater then 7 (exclusives 360 has for 2012)



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This thread was created to look at what Sony's dev studios were working on currently. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the fanboys derailed the conversation about few posts into it.

Fucking sad.



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Tridrakious said:
This thread was created to look at what Sony's dev studios were working on currently. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the fanboys derailed the conversation about few posts into it.

Fucking sad.

To be fair, I did not want to talk about 360, and only the thread author keeps returning my comments with comparisions between 360 and PS3. I replied, which is sad, I agree, and so is everyone who keeps fucken posting about PS3 vs. 360 comparisions. Always happens on PS3 threads (ned to compensate?)

I mean who gives a sit anymore?

Tridrakious said:
Michael-5 said:

Rockstar is greedy. Remember GTA: IV DLC was a 50 million dollar paid exclusive by MS? Well it was only timed. If Agent is anything big, Rockstar won't cut half their profits (likely more since software for this type of game typically sells better on 360) for no reason. I mean if EA made Mass Effect 2 a multiplatform title, I have no doubt Rockstar will follow suit.

No one really knows anything about the Agent. Sony may be helping publish it, which like the GTA IV expansions, could mean timed exclusive, but IMO, I think that's the most exclusive Agent will ever be.

My reasoning behind Versus XIII going multi platform is that FFXIII and FFXIII-2 are multiplatform now, and FFXIII was announced to be that way late into development. SE probably realized that 360 does control a large American market, and they know that in order to keep Final Fantasy alive, they need to appeal to the American and European market more (since Japanese gamers are slowly migrating to handhelds). So I think the reason the game has been delayed indefinatly like it has, is because they are trying to make the game work for the X-Box 360 as well. I don't think it will be a timed exclusive, this isn't the start of then gen, but it will be PS3 exclusive in Japan.

Well as you point out earlier in the thread, Sony doesn't have that many first party exclusives coming in 2012. Which would leave the door open for Sony to buyout Agent's ownership, but keep Rockstar on board. It would be great to see Rockstar and Sony Santa Monica working on a game together.

One thing to look at is Final Fantasy XIII sold better on PS3 in North America. Of course the 360 version did sell over a million, XIII-2 is no where to be found on the pre-order charts, but the PS3 version can be found (in the USA pre-orders chart, number 8). Which would mean the 360 isn't really building much of a base. This would show Square that spending the resources on making this work for 360 wouldn't be worth it.

If I was calling the shots at Sony, I would be all over buying out the titles. Gaining complete ownership of them, but keeping the devs on it. But I would add Sony Japan Studios to Versus XIII and Sony Santa Monica to Agent.

If MS doesn't ave enough $$$ to keep DLC exclusive, Sony definatly does not have enough $$$ to keep Agent exclusives. Third party exclusives make no sense this late into the console gen.

Good point about Final Fantasy, but FFXIII sold close to 2 million WW on 360, which ins't a number to ignore (it's something like 30% of total sales). Yes if FFXIII went exclusive to PS3, sales on PS3 would be higher, but Japan is FFXIII's biggest region and it was console exclusive there. Still sold much less then Final Fantasy X (sold less then Final Fantasy X-2).

Heck I would even argue the gain in PS3 sales if the franchise remained exclusive would have been small. If you compare FFXIII (PS3) sales to FFX-2 you will see it sold about 15% weaker in Japan, and 25% weaker outside of Japan. So I would argue that had it remained exclusive, sales would have been 10-20% higher, which is max 400k. FFXIII sold 1.75 million on 360, thats 1.3-1.4 million units more.

Also with WRPG's starting to become more popular, I think it's well withing Square Enix's interests to make the game available to 360 owners and appealing to American buyers in general.

I wouldn't change too muc if I were Sony, they own a lot of studios. I wish they invested in more sci-fi games and expanded Polyphony Digital (too long between GT iterations, Turn 10 is over double the size now).



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there is nothing better then a console with a bunch of exclusives to distract you from 3rd party games.



Jay520 said:
Michael-5 said:

Well with only 4 confirmed PS3 exclusives to be released for the PS3 in the upcoming years, it's still a dry lineup. The generation is ending



Either way, next year shows the PS3 will have a relatively large number of notable, fresh, core games releasing. 2011 was mainly sequels & 2010 was composed of mainly Move games.

I....don't know if I can agree with that. Last Guardian, Sly Cooper, and Twisted Metal are PS2 sequals, and Starhawk is a PS3 sequal. The Last of Us is the only "new" IP, but it's nice to see so many PS2 reboots.



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o_O.Q said:
Michael-5 said:

13 non-move titles: MAG, Heavy Rain, MLB: The Show, God of War 3, Mod Nation Racers, White Knight Chronicles, Buzz, TV SuperStars, Singstar, and Gran Turismo 5.

Actually it's 10. I didn't read the games and there were 5 Move titles (Sports Champions, The Shoot, Kung Fu Rider, Start The Party, and Time Crisis). Of those 10, I only think 3 are worthy of attention.

However reading the games, many of the 2010 titles were released in Japan in 2010, and in North America in 2011, so 2011 is actually 11 games, not 9.

Either way, 5 for 2012 <<< 2009-2011 PS3 lifespan. Indication that PS3 is over the hill, and my original point. Why is anyone shocked at the amount of first party games for 2012?


thats the thing... the five you are counting is excluding games such as mlb that get yearly releases, other possible releases slated for next year and move games... thats why its an onaccurate assumption, its just too early to make claimsa bout sony's 2012 lineup this early

Good argument to include MLB: The Show, but still 5 games now. It's likely all manufacterers will announce more games, and Sony also has a few PSV/PS3 titles. I agree with you, but in regards to the OP being amazed at 5 games, my comment is still valid. 5 games (4 sequals) is nothing to be amazed about, PS3 had better years (years where we knew about more games annouced at the start of the year).



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NoCtiS_NoX said:
Michael-5 said:

My main point is Sony often announces game early into the lifecycle, and looking at the OP, we shouldn't expect more then 4 games for 2011, even that is no garentee. Project's don't count, that can release any time, for all we know, these are early PS4 titles which will also get crazy delays.

But what does all the thing you said, have to do with this thread? Did the OP mention anything about 2012? ( I am assuming you meant 2012 because you keep mentioning 2011 a typo? ).

He is talking about how awesome the line up of PS3  is and how their first party has been delivering awesome games to the table for 4 years and counting. He is talking about whole PS3 line up from the past and the future and that's we should have been discussing not the 2012 line up blah blah blah and how Sony is announcing a game far too early. 

That's why I called you from derailing the thread and I honestly suggest that you read the OP again because you are missing the whole point of this thread.

 

Again that's not the case anymore. Can you give me more not 1  or 2 but more examples aside from your 5 examples? 

They have been announcing games and then release  it within a year or so. You want me to bring more examples? ok.

Last E3  2011 they announced Deadmund's quest and it was released by Nov.That's 5 mos.

Resistance 3 was announced at last years Gamesom and was release by sept 2011. =1 year 1 mo.

Move fitness was announced at this year's gamescom and  was released this Nov 2011. =3 mos.

Eyepet & friends was announced at april 2011 and was released by Nov 2011. =7 mos.

Everybody dance/ dance star party was announced last E3 2011 and was released by oct 2011. =4 mos.

Carnival Island was announced at last E3 2011 and was released by Nov 2011. =5 mos.

Infamous: festival of blood was announced at last E3 2011 and was released by Oct 2011. =4 mos.


Again you shouldn't use HR, GT5, Last Guardian and KZ 2 as an indicator because those are excemptions and again you should look on what's happening right now and not what is happening on the past. I really don't want to say this again but you should stop living on the past. 


Those games you mentioned, all small volume Move games, or PSN games. Resistance is the only example of a game which was announced relativly early compared to release. Sony still holds that delayed reputation, with Last Guardian now at 3 years release after announcement. Last Guardian is right now.

I think for Sony, 2 years is the common annouce to release for most of it's franchises. Some games with bi-annually iterations get announced a single year before release (Uncharted, Resistance, etc), but many get delayed, sometimes drastically (LBP2, GT5, Killzone 2, etc).

As for the OP directly, I don't disagree about Sony's first party content over the last 4 years. That's why I didn't comment on that, it's a lot. I commented on the future, which looks dry. OP didn't mention 2012, I did, and my reasoning was to make the upcoming lineup look more dry. If Sony often announces games2 years or longer before releasing their games, then we should expect less then 5 games for 2012, which is really....not much. PS3 is at the end of its life now, that's my pont.

NoCtiS_NoX said:


Ok 4? Are you sure about that?

Starhawk, Twisted Metal, Last of us, Sly 4, Last Guardian ( big if ), Motorstrom RC, MLB 2012, Dust 214.

What's stopping Sony from announcing few more games next year and release on the same year as well? Look at my previous qoute to you.

Anyway. How do you see the whole 2012 line-up of PS3 (exclusive) including 3rd parties?

4 First Party exclusives. Dust 514 is not first party, MLB 2012 has not been announced, and this is the first time I heard of Motorstorm RC.

The OP and I were incorrect about 4 First Party games. Jay pointed out Sly, and now you pointed out Motorstorm. That makes 6, which is significantly more then 4.

Still think it's a bit dry, but it's not as bad as it was before E3 2011 (when there were only 2 games announced for 2012).



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