why do you even bother with him?

he gives out nothing but misinformation, he just said MLB 12 hasnt been announced. when in fact it has, and for PS3 and Vita with integration.

and the PS3 version will have full MOve support. every aspect will be able to played with move

I'm saying that it appears most gaming being developed by Japanese companies are trying to fit their game into either Dragon Quest or Monster Hunter nowadays.

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Did you just ignore my my first qoute on you, listing big games that was release with a 1 year timeframe when it was first announced? >_>

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4336341 

The reason I add more games is to show  "you" that Sony is not announcing their games far too early anymore while you. just keep on holding to GT 5, KZ 2, Last guardian and HR and using it as an indicator that Sony is still announcing games far too early. Why? when I already showed you that is not the case anymore and FYI Last guardian was revealed in 2007 so it's not 3 years. It was still known as project Trico back then.

I gave you  a list, why not give me a list of your own because you are still using games that was announced on 2005, 2006 and 2007. Show me more than 5 games that was announced far too early after 2008 and was released after 2 years. I challenge you.

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I don't understand this can you elaborate? Are you suggesting that Uncharted 2 was announced 2 years before it was release?

FYI LBP 2 was not delayed drastically. It was delayed only for 2 mos.

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 OP didn't mention 2012, I did, and my reasoning was to make the upcoming lineup look more dry. If Sony often announces games2 years or longer before releasing their games, then we should expect less then 5 games for 2012, which is really....not much. PS3 is at the end of its life now, that's my pont.

Yes you are right and thank you for admitting it and that's why I am telling you, you are derailing the thread. What does 2012 line-up and Sony delaying the games has to do with this thread? The OP is just sharing his happiness and how happy he is that Sony is still delivering the goods and  honestly this is a very light hearted thread until you came in and posted the things you have posted.

Anyway, Why did you even want to make PS3 line-up look more dry? And why do you even want to tell him that. What's the deal? What's the problem? Did he said something that might hurt you or offend you? I am sorry dude but you seem like the guy that enters a party and trying to ruin it for the party maker and for everybody to put it simply "You are acting like a party crasher".

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MLB 2012 was already announced. >_>

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1212061p1.html

It's not as massive as 2011 IMO ATM with Killzone 3, Uncharted 3, LBP2 and etc. and move games but I won't call 2012 PS3's line-up dry. 

Confirmed for 2012

Agarest war 2, Neptunia MK II, Yakuza Dead soul, Sly 4, Starhawk, Twisted Metal, Ni no Kuni, Last of Us, MLB 2012, Motorstorm RC, Tales of graces F.

Not confirmed but has the possibilty to be release on 2012

Dust 514, The last guardian, Ruin, Sorcery.

And what stopping sony from announcing games next year and release it the same year. I already proven that they can do it.

That doesn't really add to this conversation either way because MLB is an annual franchise. What does having Move support have to do with anything, trying to advertize?

I can't be perfect, the OP thought that there were 2:1 exclusives on the PS3 vs. 360, why don't you attack him for making a much larger, blatent mistake? I do my best, but I'm not aware of every little game announced, and I did say I could be missing a few titles.

Why do you always follow me around, and if I get info the slightest bit wrong, insult and demean me? Still with MLB, that's 7 exclusives (If I didn't join this thread, would most of you still think 4 like in the OP?), which is a lot less then the 10+ of prior years, and I don't think all 7 of those games will release in 2012....

"I'm not aware of every little game announced, and I did say I could be missing a few titles"

why then should anyone take your claims seriously? especially so early ( its not even 2012 yet so there are defintely going to be more announcements as we go on ) and also especially when your main source of information is wikipedia?

"which is a lot less then the 10+ of prior years"

no its because you are counting to suit your flawed argument you haven't included games like motorstorm rc, ruin etc 

@ Michael

Do YOU realize that games can be announced next year as well? This year primarily because of vita Sony has had to announce a lot of games at various events. And we still have 4 huge games for the next year. How many first party games did MS and nintendo release this year? If 4 games from one publisher is dry then we were pretty much in draught throughout the gen.

Oh I missed your first paragraph, I only saw one about a bunch of Move games which got released within a year.

I did say games with bi-annual releases get announced much sooner to release (Uncharted's and Resistance games), but you did name 4 non-bi-weekly releases released within 2 years. So I'll give you some counter examples.

White Knight Chronicles was announced in fall 2007, and released in early 2010. Nearly 2.5 years.

MAG was announced E3 2008, and released January 2010, bit over 1.5 years

3D Dot Game Heros was announced August 2009, and released May 2010, that's nearly 2 years.

White Knight Chronicles 2 was announced at TGS 2009, and wasn't released until September 2011, thats close to 2 years.

The Last Guardian was announced in 2007,so it's over 3.5 years now.

Twisted Metal was announced E3 2010, but won't release until February 2012, that's 1 and 3/4 years.

Note, several of these games were announced before 2008, but these are the games Sony is releasing in recent years. If many of them were announced a while back, it's likely many of the current projects could be delayed. You argue that since 2008 Sony has released most of their announced exclusives on short timeframes, but that's just because the ones still in development since aren't released yet. This is a key point of logic (how can a game with a 3-4 year release to announce gap have been announced 2 years ago, and released?)

We son't see as many games with over 2 years development time, I agree, but who is to say Last Guardian won't be delayed another year? Heavy Rain was a recent title and that had a 3.5 year development time, GT5 was 5 years, and both of those games are recently released PS3 games. Yes I do keep bringing these games up because it's common for Sony to announce several of their games years before release, and this prroves my statement. Most games are about 2 years though, with a handful closer to 1 year.

Also to be fair, we could add GT6 to the list of upcoming games. Polyphony Digital has confirmed they are working on it, but haven't mentioned which platform. I doubt that game will release before fall 2013 though, so another 2 year wait at least.

Paragraph 2 - except for biannual releases like Uncharted, most of PS3's exclusives are announced 2 years before release.

Why does making a list of 2012 titls derail the thread? OP talks about upcoming games, I point out, there aren't many, and I doubt most of which will release any time soon (2012). If Sony announced 40 games tomorrow, to be released over the next 10 years, would you be shocked at the number of games, or realize that the content per year isn't much. I am the later.

Why did I want to make the line-up look more dry? To show the generation is coming to an end. All consoles are getting dryer line ups. Instead of being excited about the leftover PS3 games, we should be looking into PS4's.

Yes, but of those games how many will release in 2012? I think it's more likely that more games will get delayed from a tentive 2012 launch into 2013, then those who will get announced in the next 6 months and release in fall 2012.

2008-2011 Sony announced more games then they have at the start of 2012, that's my point! 7 games from 1 publisher is a lot, but for Sony, it's a lot less then normal.

and lets not bring in MS or Nintendo, otherwise I'll have 10 more comments saying "360's library is shit, blind support to PS3!!!" and that's just annoying. Also it defeats my point. All first party developers have a dry 2012 lineup, with only a couple of real AAA titles.