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vlad321 on 17 November 2010
Reasonable said:
vlad321 said:
Reasonable said:

I think in some cases you're mixing up the context of overrated with personal preference.  For example it would appear a vast majority of critics and gamers agree Uncharted 2 is fantastic.  I don't think you could argue that its overrated from that start point - simply that your opinion is different.

On the other hand there is a far larger, and more compelling, view that in hindsight GTAIV was overrated.  I'm not saying it was, but I could see the context being more suitable in that case.

Basically, being in a minority who doesn't like somehting as much as others doesn't render the thing overrated - you need a larger groundswell to support that kind of claim.


That is not exactly true though. The same rules apply to video games as any other form of entertainment such as movies, books, etc.

As such think about it, there are millions and millions of people, and critics, who drool over The Dark Knight. However it is still not a god movie, very ejoyable yes, but not good. If you don't agree with that, then look at Twilight. Same thing.

For books I have to bring up Twilight again. It has sold millions and garnered lots of praise, yet are you willing to come out and say it's a good, well written book? What about Harry Potter?

The problem is that it seems that video gamers seem to be too naive, ignorant, immature, just plain old stupid, or a combination of a few of those to realize the difference between entertaining and good. I think the fault lies that video games are such a young entertainment medium that most people still can't see the difference between the two.

Not sure I get your points.  I haven't read Twilight but I thought it got critically mauled  and was rated as just for a core fanatic demographic - that's not overrated that's popular despite ratings.

I mean I think you see the same stuff everywhere - not just videogames - is that your point?  If so then yes I agree.  You'll get people grumbling Harry Potter is overrated or whatever.

Well let's work with Harry Potter then, many people say it's a good read and an entertaining book, however how many are willing to step out and say that it's a well written piece of literature?

My point is that people can't differentiate between something that's of good quality and something that isn't but can entertain.



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twesterm on 17 November 2010

So basically any respected game you don't like is overrated?



 

Beuli2 on 17 November 2010

Indeed overrated those game are.



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 17 November 2010

Stupid , Crap, Boring, Meaninless, a huge step down from the other games, a huge disappointment, and a massively overrated piece of shit of a game. yea that sounds like GTA 4.

i like the thread. so whts in part 2? HALO3, odst, and REACH? or maybe Assassins Creed brother hood? man i can't wait for part 2 of this thread so i can laugh even harder!



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outlawauron on 17 November 2010
ishiki said:
TheConduit said:

No for specifically describing games in a way that makes them sound as bad as you possible could not fairly representing the games true value to gamers and the gaming industry.

For example Halo that did not make your list could be described as:

Series that went from great to good to normal to bad to silghtly better or same,same,same,same and same. Either lacked proper online, lacked proper ending, lacked sufficeint graphics, lacked innovation or lacked Master Chief.

Halo is a great game series but by over simplifying and focusing on the negative I've completely misrepresented the games worth.

Lots of big games have lots of generic elements and you know why? BECAUSE that way they can appeal to a larger audience. And its the 10% difference that makes the difference to these big games.

Plus yes Uncharted was Linear but considering how big of a focus on cinematic moments there were it would have been practically impossible for them to maitain even a fraction of that quality and make the game non-linear. Not all games need to be or should be linear.


it's an opinion it can't be wrong, it can just be consesusly bad, you could microanalyze it either way. maybe severence was a little severe. he could think god's overrated (among other possibilities), still is choice

It can't be 'wrong' in a literal sense but the opinion can be based on fallacies and other narrow minded thoughts and perceptions that create  a bias where he response becomes illogical due to the influence of the above.



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hikaruchan on 17 November 2010
ishiki said:

I vote to turn this into a happy thread

FInal Fantasy X-2 is the most underrated game of all time! By FANS particularly by khuutra (who probably never played it), the manly-men, and darth

not critics they were actually reasonable with this one... critical insanity that belongs to Dreamfall

imo ofcourse :P

Agreed FFX-2 was an  amazing Game that was rated very highly by critics. I know I love FFX-2 but some fans could not except the bishojo senshi design of the game and Yuna as a POP Star.    



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hikaruchan on 17 November 2010
ishiki said:
Severance said:
CGI-Quality said:

I mainly agree here. I wouldn't consider FFXIII overrated (judging by Metacritic - I thought it was a blast). If it were just a tad lower, it be in "average" status.


it got a perfect score by famitsu, that alone is lolzy


it got a 39/40 and famitsu gives almost every game, really high. Which I'd agree is too high, I'd give it a 36/40. but opinions opinions :P

But generally (correct me if I'm wrong I didnt check this) famitsu overrates pretty much every japanese game according to say meta.

plus you don't even like ratings I'm so confused

FFXIII and FFX both have a 39/40 by Famitsu I believe that makes them the highest rated FFs next to FFXII that got 40/40.



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Reasonable on 17 November 2010
vlad321 said:
Reasonable said:
vlad321 said:
Reasonable said:

I think in some cases you're mixing up the context of overrated with personal preference.  For example it would appear a vast majority of critics and gamers agree Uncharted 2 is fantastic.  I don't think you could argue that its overrated from that start point - simply that your opinion is different.

On the other hand there is a far larger, and more compelling, view that in hindsight GTAIV was overrated.  I'm not saying it was, but I could see the context being more suitable in that case.

Basically, being in a minority who doesn't like somehting as much as others doesn't render the thing overrated - you need a larger groundswell to support that kind of claim.


That is not exactly true though. The same rules apply to video games as any other form of entertainment such as movies, books, etc.

As such think about it, there are millions and millions of people, and critics, who drool over The Dark Knight. However it is still not a god movie, very ejoyable yes, but not good. If you don't agree with that, then look at Twilight. Same thing.

For books I have to bring up Twilight again. It has sold millions and garnered lots of praise, yet are you willing to come out and say it's a good, well written book? What about Harry Potter?

The problem is that it seems that video gamers seem to be too naive, ignorant, immature, just plain old stupid, or a combination of a few of those to realize the difference between entertaining and good. I think the fault lies that video games are such a young entertainment medium that most people still can't see the difference between the two.

Not sure I get your points.  I haven't read Twilight but I thought it got critically mauled  and was rated as just for a core fanatic demographic - that's not overrated that's popular despite ratings.

I mean I think you see the same stuff everywhere - not just videogames - is that your point?  If so then yes I agree.  You'll get people grumbling Harry Potter is overrated or whatever.

Well let's work with Harry Potter then, many people say it's a good read and an entertaining book, however how many are willing to step out and say that it's a well written piece of literature?

My point is that people can't differentiate between something that's of good quality and something that isn't but can entertain.


Okay - got you.  Yup.  I do figure a lot of people struggle with something they like or is entertaining but isn't necessarily critically good vs something is both critically good and entertaining.  I've always assumed part of the problem is how informed people are in general.



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ishiki on 17 November 2010
Mirson said:
hikaruchan said:
enrageorange said:

i agree with Gears of War and assassins creed.I would also like to add littlebigplanet, Metal Gear Solid 4, NSMBWii, and Mass Effect 2. LittleBigPlanet was terribly boring, even considering the ridiculous amount of online maps. It probably didn't help that i was extremly hyped for it. NSMBWii was just an average mario platformer. Metal Gear Solid 4 wasn't that good. Gameplay was average, maybe if I cared more for the story I would like it. Mass Effect 2 is good, I just think its more of a high 8s good rather then a high 9s.


Have you played any of the the other MGS Games?

I have, and I thought MGS4 was terrible. It's my most disappointing game this gen. I feel like going into a small rant, and there will be spoilers.

MGS4 is a narrative trainwreck. The story is terribly written and poorly paced, and the cutscenes drag on. Some of the cutscenes have unnecessary events, and they're filled with repeated lines. Every hole is filled with nanomachines, and then it goes on to explain this horrific twist. Also, it tacks on some cliche and unbelievable romance (Otacon and Naomi), and Otacon crying over a one night stand is hilarious. Then, Drebin tells you the B&B Corps' backstory after they've died. When you confront them, you know nothing about them. They didn't play a role in the story unlike Foxhound and Dead Cell. Why would I want to know their story after they died? This is just lazy writing.

Lastly, the game rewards you for killing, and it doesn't compel you to conserve ammo (Drebin Points). Ran out of ammo during a boss fight? No problem. Just press start and buy some. There's more I can go on about like Akiba and Zero, but I'll stop for now.


i agree with you on every point. Except that I still loved that game (Much Less so than MGS1,2 and Peace Walker [I'm not including 3 :OOOOOOOOOOO] haha) ... because it was still really fun for me for some reason even the second time when I skipped the cutscenes. even with all the problems it had.



ishiki on 17 November 2010
Severance said:
ishiki said:

severance... I'm obviously not against you, I agree with you most of the time. And some of the stuff in this thread.

but, is this what pullus pardus used to do to the forum? haha

i'm more tamed now!


it's hard to imagaine you less tame >_> i wonder what you did then, other than have funny avatars of lightning and... uh? who noctis or something