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Nu-13 said:
RolStoppable said:

He isn't ignoring that. He's still waiting for an explanation how such a chipset could be put into a console anytime soon while other factors like size, price, cooling and battery life are also accounted for.

Nope. There's nothing alien about a console succeeding another 6 years later and being much more powerful.

You yourself bolded the part in his post where he said 2021.



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RolStoppable said:
Nu-13 said:

Nope. There's nothing alien about a console succeeding another 6 years later and being much more powerful.

You yourself bolded the part in his post where he said 2021.

2021 for the chipset is expected. 2022 for the switch 2. No one is realistically expecting a 2021 release for switch 2.



Nu-13 said:
RolStoppable said:

You yourself bolded the part in his post where he said 2021.

2021 for the chipset is expected. 2022 for the switch 2. No one is realistically expecting a 2021 release for switch 2.

If you say so. But an important question still remains: How much more powerful than the PS4 is said chipset going to be?

People aren't looking for something that is marginally better than the PS4, but rather significantly because it's about the question how feasible ports of PS5 games are.



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RolStoppable said:
Nu-13 said:

2021 for the chipset is expected. 2022 for the switch 2. No one is realistically expecting a 2021 release for switch 2.

If you say so. But an important question still remains: How much more powerful than the PS4 is said chipset going to be?

People aren't looking for something that is marginally better than the PS4, but rather significantly because it's about the question how feasible ports of PS5 games are.

That is exactly my point.


Hence why I don't know what chipset (that is mobile) from NVIDIA, that would be suitable for the Switch. I want someone to point to me this is the chipset that could be used (or a custom version of). What is the logical step from a Tegra X1 that will get us even to PS4 level, let alone better to make it more feasible to port PS5 games.


I got a gaming laptop with an RTX2070, so I know what NVIDIA have out there but that aint going into a Switch 2 lol



 

 

Soundwave said:
zorg1000 said:

Not really, you seem to be ignoring that a whole bunch of teams are making the leap from 3DS to Switch, rather than Wii U to Switch.

The core console teams (Zelda team, Retro team, EAD Tokyo's Mario teams, the Mario Kart team) have been working on the same level for almost a decade, sorry but that is hamstringing some of the most talented developers on the planet.

They all will be able to do more on the PS4++ tech and even teams that went from 3DS to Switch ... so what? They will have even more options on a Switch 2. 

If you gave Nintendo developers a GameCube chip instead of an N64 (effectively skipping an entire generation) in 1995 ... that's *good* for the developer, not bad. 

3rd parties were stuck on 360 level hardware for nearly a decade as well, 2005-2013 and most 2014/2015 titles were cross-gen, so why is it out of the question for Nintendo to have the same thing?

In those 8 years, the teams you listed (Zelda, Mario Kart, 3D Mario & Retro) have released 1 HD title in each of those series.

On top of that we just now got our first HD Fire Emblem, first HD mainline Pokemon, first HD Luigi's Mansion, about to get our first HD Animal Crossing, and have yet to get our first HD Metroid, etc.

Just because more powerful hardware exists does not mean it's necessary to transition to it if you still have untapped potential in your current hardware.



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RolStoppable said:
Nu-13 said:

2021 for the chipset is expected. 2022 for the switch 2. No one is realistically expecting a 2021 release for switch 2.

If you say so. But an important question still remains: How much more powerful than the PS4 is said chipset going to be?

People aren't looking for something that is marginally better than the PS4, but rather significantly because it's about the question how feasible ports of PS5 games are.

I already said I expect something 7-8x more powerful than the switch's gpu. hat puts it at or a little under the xbox one x gpu power (with more modern stuff). Cpu will be much better and I also expect 16gb of lpddr4 ram, with 14-15gb reserved for games.



Nu-13 said:
RolStoppable said:

If you say so. But an important question still remains: How much more powerful than the PS4 is said chipset going to be?

People aren't looking for something that is marginally better than the PS4, but rather significantly because it's about the question how feasible ports of PS5 games are.

I already said I expect something 7-8x more powerful than the switch's gpu. hat puts it at or a little under the xbox one x gpu power (with more modern stuff). Cpu will be much better and I also expect 16gb of lpddr4 ram, with 14-15gb reserved for games.

Again you throw out numbers from where? what is your basis point for this conclusion?

There is nothing that is a mobile chipset from Nvidia to suggest it will be 8x better than Switch from a 2021 design (Unless you think Nvidia are going to use a main PC GPU, not a mobile one) and shrink it so far that they will put it in a Switch.



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
Nu-13 said:

I already said I expect something 7-8x more powerful than the switch's gpu. hat puts it at or a little under the xbox one x gpu power (with more modern stuff). Cpu will be much better and I also expect 16gb of lpddr4 ram, with 14-15gb reserved for games.

Again you throw out numbers from where? what is your basis point for this conclusion?

There is nothing that is a mobile chipset from Nvidia to suggest it will be 8x better than Switch from a 2021 design (Unless you think Nvidia are going to use a main PC GPU, not a mobile one) and shrink it so far that they will put it in a Switch.

What we have right now in 12nm is the basis. New and more advanced gpus built on 7nm will have the performance described above.



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zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:

The core console teams (Zelda team, Retro team, EAD Tokyo's Mario teams, the Mario Kart team) have been working on the same level for almost a decade, sorry but that is hamstringing some of the most talented developers on the planet.

They all will be able to do more on the PS4++ tech and even teams that went from 3DS to Switch ... so what? They will have even more options on a Switch 2. 

If you gave Nintendo developers a GameCube chip instead of an N64 (effectively skipping an entire generation) in 1995 ... that's *good* for the developer, not bad. 

3rd parties were stuck on 360 level hardware for nearly a decade as well, 2005-2013 and most 2014/2015 titles were cross-gen, so why is it out of the question for Nintendo to have the same thing?

In those 8 years, the teams you listed (Zelda, Mario Kart, 3D Mario & Retro) have released 1 HD title in each of those series.

On top of that we just now got our first HD Fire Emblem, first HD mainline Pokemon, first HD Luigi's Mansion, about to get our first HD Animal Crossing, and have yet to get our first HD Metroid, etc.

Just because more powerful hardware exists does not mean it's necessary to transition to it if you still have untapped potential in your current hardware.

This. The current Switch's full potential hasn't been tapped out yet, we've yet to see for example what an open world 3D Zelda (BOTW2) built from the ground up for Switch can achieve, or what Metroid could look like, etc.