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Which would sell more - FFXIII Wii or FFXIII HD

HD 215 79.63%
 
Wii 55 20.37%
 
Total:270
Pristine20 on 16 January 2010
Kasz216 said:
Pristine20 said:
jarrod said:
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:

Can't really say. It's pretty obvious FF XIII Wii would of sold more in Japan.

However for the west.... it depends how big of a western hit it is... on the 360... I'd say.

Higher userbase doesn't always equate to higher sales. Perhaps that would be the case if FF13 was announced as a wii game from the start but even then, I doubt it because FFXIII sold pretty similar to its previous iterations on ps3s meager userbase alone.

Larger userbases do affect upper limits of sales... Wii's best selling game in Japan is at 3.6m, PS3's is at 1.8m.

I'd say a Wii FFXIII would've matched FFX (and exceeded FFXIII PS3) for sales in Japan.  In the west is where it would tumble though, as I think a lot of FF's expanded western audience are more PlayStation faithful, plus big Japanese 360 games tend to do well regardless.

lol, the hate for FFXIII is why it hasn't done as well as FFX. People complaining about one thing after the other. It's on track to be more hated than FFXII. Except the wii version of FFXIII was going to a completely different game, I dont see how your idea would come to fruition. Right now, my view of a wii version is the same FFXIII with a much lower res presentation. If anything the ps3 has the extra few who just bought it because the graphics were great (I personally know people like this).

Your idea would only apply to a more mainstream game but JRPGs or hell even RPGs period aren't mainstream. I don't know anyone who plays games on a more casual basis who plays RPGs. FF is mostly bought FF fans and not much else. I dont see the wii's extra userbase making much of a difference in that respect.

A) I do.

B) Your not japanese.

A) I don't know you

B) I already conceded that I may not understand whats "mainstream" in the JP market in a previous post.



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darthdevidem01 on 16 January 2010
Pristine20 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Pristine20 said:
 

Dude, I pulled a random % out of the blue. The point isnt what the exact % is. The point is that a game that is such a huge franchise in JP would win "best game" on the back of popularity regardless of dissenters. Perhaps I'm wrong about it ending up more hated than FFXIII but you'll almost believe that if you use the gfaqs board like I do.

lol, FFVIII and FFX-2 are nowhere as hated as FFXII but I'm really judging from the  gFAQs forums so maybe the sample of gamers isn't huge enough but these are the most used quasi-official forums for these games.

Pristine then why isn't pokemon higher, or why is NSMB Wii so low?

Why is MH3 lower than games like Tales of Vesperia & so on?

Why is uncharted 2 even in the top 20

I agree DQ9 & FF13 have the advantage of being popular franchises, but other rankings in the list show popularity simply isn't enough to be high.

And lol gamefaq's, the forums there are awful & bash any game to death from what I heard.

I believe that FFX-2 is more hated than FF12

I concede dear sir...you have won. I'll now admit that gFAQs guys aren't a good metric to judge such a factor. Now that I thin about it, perhaps that's because the haterade drinkers are more vocal. Regardless, I'm the type that buys a main series FF no matter what so these ideas have been for the sake of certain arguments not that I hate the game.

As for the FFx-2 vs 12 thing, I don't know what to say anymore since there's no way to really decide.

Respect for that!

Each FF being different is a treat imho!

And yes FF haters have always been a very vocal group, definetely a minority every time (yes even for FF12)

I agree FFX-2 vs FF12 is no way to decide definitively, so lets leave it for now :)



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Pristine20 on 16 January 2010
Kasz216 said:
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:

Can't really say. It's pretty obvious FF XIII Wii would of sold more in Japan.

However for the west.... it depends how big of a western hit it is... on the 360... I'd say.

Higher userbase doesn't always equate to higher sales. Perhaps that would be the case if FF13 was announced as a wii game from the start but even then, I doubt it because FFXIII sold pretty similar to its previous iterations on ps3s meager userbase alone.

No, but it would for a huge game like FFXIII.

Afterall, the games didn't reach the PS3 iterations when this before has been a series systems are bought for.  Not only would it of sold more, it prolly would of boosted Wii sales more.

I think Jarrod and I have already gone through a number of loops concerning this. Please read my ther posts.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Kasz216 on 16 January 2010
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:
Pristine20 said:
Kasz216 said:

Can't really say. It's pretty obvious FF XIII Wii would of sold more in Japan.

However for the west.... it depends how big of a western hit it is... on the 360... I'd say.

Higher userbase doesn't always equate to higher sales. Perhaps that would be the case if FF13 was announced as a wii game from the start but even then, I doubt it because FFXIII sold pretty similar to its previous iterations on ps3s meager userbase alone.

No, but it would for a huge game like FFXIII.

Afterall, the games didn't reach the PS3 iterations when this before has been a series systems are bought for.  Not only would it of sold more, it prolly would of boosted Wii sales more.

I think Jarrod and I have already gone through a number of loops concerning this. Please read my ther posts.

You went in a circle, though it was an incorrect circle.

Take a look at multiplat games.

Look at the difference between Modern Warfare 2 PS3 and 360.

Why did it sell so much more on 360 then PS3?  Bigger userbase.

 

If Modern Warfare was a PS3 exclusive would it have sold as much as the 360 version did?  Unlikely.

If Modern Warfare was a 360 exclusive it likely woudl of sold even more then it has.

Userbase matters most on the extremes.  With games that want to sell multi-millions and games that want to sell small amounts.  Your low budget games.

 

Hence why it matters whether in the West FF sells 2-3 million or 4-5 million.

Whether the extra 360 userbase can push copies sold into that "superstar" range based on "attach rate."



Gearbox on 16 January 2010

ugh the wii has some ff games and they flopped didnt they? so i go with hd



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DavidValbu on 16 January 2010

The Wii didn't have the main serie game. The first great high budget production game SE has for the Wii is Dragon Quest X, don't forget.



dunno001 on 16 January 2010

Hmm... I'm going to say the Wii, slightly. I noted that when FF13 was announced, there was a rash of people buying PS3s in anticipation for the game. I do believe this same thing would have happened had it been announced for the Wii. The FF fanbase is... fairly rabid about following their series, and would go (a good chunk blindly, I might add) to whatever system would have the series, as indicated by the rash of PS3 sales.

So why do I give it to the Wii? The install base in Japan is tilted fairly strongly toward the Wii, and it would be moreso if it had FF13. And, with FF in Japan, coupled with the coming DQX, would result in even more systems sold, and more people picking up both games. (Yes, I do think had FF13 been Wii exclusive, it would help DQX sales also.) So Japan would see a strong leaning toward the Wii for sales.

As for worldwide, I think it would be about unchanged. Yes, there would be some lost sales from people whining about graphics. But I do think this would be offset by knowing that both DQ and FF would be on the system (despite DQ's weaker pull outside Japan- the S-E fanboys), and while there are more HD systems, I also could see the "casuals" (as some here like to call them) wondering what this game is, why it's so popular (the number 13 will entice some people), and buy it. The HD market is more "hardcore" (again, as some here would say), and thus more people know what they want to buy beforehand. There's a better potential for marketting to the Wii, and given that S-E wants this game to sell, I think it would go against standard grain, and actually see advertising. So sales would be about even outside of Japan, leaving only Japan to make up the difference, or, in this case, increase.



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Gilgamesh on 16 January 2010
DavidValbu said:
Wii version. HD because of the graphics? Just look at the sales of Dragon Quest IX for DS, did FFXIII sell that amount of copies even with those ultraHDgraphics?

What does Dragon Quest (A series bigger then Final Fantasy in Japan) have to do with Final Fantasy sales. Not to mention you brought up the DS (which has the user base almost the size of the PS2). Dragon Quest IX was a main game in the series, it was expected to sell like that in Japan.

I agree the wii would take it for Japan sales easily,  but sales for the rest of the world would be a completely different story.



makingmusic476 on 16 January 2010

Why would the game sell better on Wii in Japan?

Tales of Graces and Sengoku Musou 3 didn't exactly light up the charts compared to Tales of Vesperia (a port), Shin Sangoku Musou 6, and Gundam Musou 2.

The fanbases for old popular Japanese ps2 franchises seems to be split, with the majority going to ps3. The only exception seems to be Monster Hunter, but the franchise's popularity has grown immensely over the past couple of years due to the success of the PSP titles.

If FFXIII had been announced from the getgo for Wii, things would probably be different, but you might as well call the Wii the ps3 if you're going to change that many variables.



Metallicube on 17 January 2010

Uh yeah.. I think it's pretty obvious HD versions combined would outsell a Wii exclusive version. But I think it would be a lot closer than people think. Plus the budget for the Wii exclusive would be much less.