HA!!
Let's say Sony pulls out an established franchise, now refreshed with a new face, Zelda-esque.
Let's imagine a Ratchet and clank in Zelda mechanics more or less.
| hsrob said: No chance, too many loyaly fans earned over the years. There is no way a new franchise could engender such loyalty. Plus if making a Zelda-like game that is actually better than Zelda was so easy why hasn't anyone tried yet? |
That's important to notice: in an industry full of copycats, releasing tens of Nintendogs and Wii Sports wannabees (amongst many others, from RPG's to shooters), where are the action/adventure games that could equal the Legend of Zelda, and where are the platformers that could equal Super Mario? If Nintendo's so lazy, it should be really easy to do even better, at least a couple of times each year, right? :)
But strangely, nothing... of course, there are other good action/adventures, and other good platformers... but with such a creativity? Such brillant level designs? Such perfect controls? And so many things right, and perfectly blended in the same package?
I could wait for another decade, or i'd have stopped gaming if Nintendo wasn't there... but i'm not a "hardcore gamer", i'm just a Nintendo fan, so of course, i don't know what i'm talking about, i know nothing about what makes a game really great... :))
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68soul said:
That's important to notice: in an industry full of copycats, releasing tens of Nintendogs and Wii Sports wannabees (amongst many others, from RPG's to shooters), where are the action/adventure games that could equal the Legend of Zelda, and where are the platformers that could equal Super Mario? If Nintendo's so lazy, it should be really easy to do even better, at least a couple of times each year, right? :) But strangely, nothing... of course, there are other good action/adventures, and other good platformers... but with such a creativity? Such brillant level designs? Such perfect controls? And so many things right, and perfectly blended in the same package? I could wait for another decade, or i'd have stopped gaming if Nintendo wasn't there... but i'm not a "hardcore gamer", i'm just a Nintendo fan, so of course, i don't know what i'm talking about, i know nothing about what makes a game really great... :)) |
To be fair I think the rest of the industry has caught up to Zelda in the terms of action/adventure (they haven't caught up to it in integrating puzzles for the most part) though there still isn't much that comes close to the sublime platforming of a Mario title.
| Thechalkblock said: That's impossible. No copy of Zelda could ever be anything close to being as good as Zelda. |
+1
twesterm said:
To be fair I think the rest of the industry has caught up to Zelda in the terms of action/adventure (they haven't caught up to it in integrating puzzles for the most part) though there still isn't much that comes close to the sublime platforming of a Mario title. |
Look I agree, I don't think Zelda can any longer claim to be king of all that is action/adventure or all aspects of gameplay that the genre entails, but what I meant is that no one has made a game to compete directly with Zelda in it's own space the way say Crash Bandicoot was pitted against Mario 64 in the Playstation 1 era.
hsrob said:
Look I agree, I don't think Zelda can any longer claim to be king of all that is action/adventure or all aspects of gameplay that the genre entails, but what I meant is that no one has made a game to compete directly with Zelda in it's own space the way say Crash Bandicoot was pitted against Mario 64 in the Playstation 1 era. |
Some people (not me) would probably argue that Okami came pretty close to equaling a Zelda game.
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Haha you don't give Zelda enough credit. It's more than just looking like a Zelda game but to actually be a Zelda game is something quite special. It has yet to ever be copied in experience to the full extent of the quality that is the Zelda series and I doubt it ever will.
However, if you are looking for something along Zelda quality and style on the PS3, look no further than Last Guardian. I am quite excited for this game and can't wait to see more of it at E3 2010.
Zelda is definitely by far the best game in the action/adventure genre.....no rip-off will take that away from Zelda.
N64 is the ONLY console of the fifth generation!!!
Guys it is perfectly reasonable to think that another Zelda-style game would eventually be better than Zelda. There's nothing wrong with it.
Hell, I'm pretty sure some (Hi, Montana) would argue that Okami already did that.
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