twesterm said:
68soul said:
hsrob said: No chance, too many loyaly fans earned over the years. There is no way a new franchise could engender such loyalty. Plus if making a Zelda-like game that is actually better than Zelda was so easy why hasn't anyone tried yet? |
That's important to notice: in an industry full of copycats, releasing tens of Nintendogs and Wii Sports wannabees (amongst many others, from RPG's to shooters), where are the action/adventure games that could equal the Legend of Zelda, and where are the platformers that could equal Super Mario? If Nintendo's so lazy, it should be really easy to do even better, at least a couple of times each year, right? :)
But strangely, nothing... of course, there are other good action/adventures, and other good platformers... but with such a creativity? Such brillant level designs? Such perfect controls? And so many things right, and perfectly blended in the same package?
I could wait for another decade, or i'd have stopped gaming if Nintendo wasn't there... but i'm not a "hardcore gamer", i'm just a Nintendo fan, so of course, i don't know what i'm talking about, i know nothing about what makes a game really great... :))
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To be fair I think the rest of the industry has caught up to Zelda in the terms of action/adventure (they haven't caught up to it in integrating puzzles for the most part) though there still isn't much that comes close to the sublime platforming of a Mario title.
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You're right, the most "basic" aspects of Zelda may have been equalled in a few occasions: combats with impressive bosses, immersive quests, huge worlds to explore, light puzzle or platforming elements, all of these may be found in many other (good to excellent) games...
But the Zelda's puzzles and the use of the weapons, the way they're designed in the dungeons and become one of the main ingredient of the serie, that's something i've never experienced elsewhere, not even in Okami or Metroid Prime...
And in the end, the sum of all its parts has that little bit of extra magic, something "special" i just can't name, but bring me joy and fun... :)
Now, i'd like to be wrong, and i'd like to play more and more games in that vein... as many said, Okami was one of the only very good example... and the Team Ico games are also awesome: but even then, there should be at least a handful of these to make me buy another console...
If PS3 had a decent backwards compatibility, i'd definitely buy Ico and Shadow of the Colossus in addition to the Last Guardian... but when you look at the numbers of games released each year, on all consoles, that's not much, not much at all... 4 or 5 games in that vein and of this quality, in the last 10 years? And with the exception of Okami, they're not really "Zelda-like" anyway...
And no one to say the gaming industry is lazy, of couuurse... :)
The fact is, it takes a lot of time and lot of talent to create a 50 hours-long adventure of such a quality, and the genre isn't as popular as 1st person shooters or RPG's... plus, if you create a really original game, with a deep story and a unique visual style, it may alienate a large part of the "hardcore mass market", as we've seen with Okami, so... no guarantee to make profits... that's sad, but it must be one of the main reason, i guess...