MGS2 is actually my fav MGS...I support this thread. MGS2 had " ZELDA Oot effect on me"

lol

Would you kindly place your balls right here:

Xxplain how it had bad controls? its the same controls as the first.

and the storyline is not that confusing if you played the first.

Well having the same controls as the first one is a pretty bad justification for why they didn't suck

It's a while ago since I played it, so my memory is a bit hazy on the subject. But I do remember loathing the whole auto-stick-to-wall-that-you-sort-of-walk-by. And that just about what I can remember. In general, I just remember being pissed at the controls, mostly because MGS4 was my first MGS game, and the controls were much, much better.

Also, I didn't say the storyline was confusing, I just said it was too far fetched.

d21lewis said: Rainbird said: PullusPardus said: i agree with this completely anyone who hated MGS2 probably just like old guys with beards and think its manly to play as a manly man. Or hate bad controls and stories that are waaay too far fetched for their own good. Would you kindly place your balls right here: No particular reason................

Aaaawww, you knew the color of my pubes! That's why I love you honey, you give such attention to detail

MGS1:  10/10  So far ahead of anything released at the time (only Res Evil 2 and Zelda OoT were in its league) that it wasn't funny.  Graphics, gameplay, story.  This was as close to perfect as any game I'd ever played when I first got my hands on it in 1998.  Twin Snakes for the Gamecube didn't quite stack up, but it was still good.

MGS3:  Quite possibly my personal favorite game of all time.  It wasn't perfect, but no game before or since has blown me away with its tight story telling and characterization.  To me, this was Metal Gear's finest hour.  10/10

MGS4:  This is where some of you guys are going to hate me.  I was a little disappointed with MGS4.  The gameplay was amazing (as usual) but I hold MGS titles to a higher standard.  Kojima had to resort to overly lengthy cut scenes to tie up all of the loose ends in the series.  As a result, the game seemed to ge quite a bit shorter (but in reality, pretty much all of the MGS games could be beaten in a few hours if you knew what you were doing).  I didn't like some of the story elements (Akiba, the B&B's, Nanobots, Naomi's final fate). And it didn't help things that "The Anonymous" took it upon themselves to post spoilers on my wall after I avoided all information about the game.  MGS4 was a little below what I'd hoped.  8.5/10

And, in 2001, MGS2 would have gotten a 9.5/10 from me.

To put them in order as far as my enjoyment if I were to play them today:

MGS3>MGS1>MGS2=MGS4

I agree. The game was excellent.

There is why!

you saw the ending, so you didn't understand what is in between.

that game is supposted to make you go "wha??? maybe that will be explained in the sequel!" but its actually explained by multiple replays and codecs

Ta for that

I think we need a MGS1 remake, using the MGS4 engine.