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I would've taken information that was not a interview after that E3, yes.  You instead just called me a fanboy and treated me as if i were such an idiot that i couldn't find google myself.  Besides up until Malstrom started criticizing Nintendo his words were taken for the word amongst a lot of Nintendo fans.

The SKU not being completed isn't stopping Microsoft or Sony from having people work on Motion Games.  But you are right Nintendo has been pretty secretive.  I also didn't know that Nintendo has been kicking around ideas of motion controls before Wii so please don't assume what we know.

That wouldn't be very hard.  They could pull up some of the patents they may not have planned on using and shown them much like Sony or Microsoft would and have done.  

With actual proof i might have been easily convinced.  Instead you called me names and made me feel inferior so I'm probably just not going to listen to much you have to say.  Thanks for assuming my motives and judging me when you could have simply provided evidence that might have changed my mind.  If i truly feel i'm wrong i have no problem saying "gee you are right" or "let's agree to disagree".  I don't call people names and insult their intelligence.  So even if you are correct maybe you need to rethink the manner in which you respond so as it's actually conducive to education of individuals if that is even your goal.



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Actually, Sony's motion controller was a response to Nintendo's, not the other way around. Motion+ being a response to Sony is not a very solid theory, particularly considering how much earlier Motion+ was out.



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maykissthebride said:

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Explain yourself.



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I thought that was superfluous that Sony's motion controls were in response to the Wii.

I think that the regular Wii Mote was good enough for most consumers and didn't really see Nintendo improving it unless it weren't for the promise and rumors of "better" motion controls from competitors. That's what i'm talking about. The fact that Nintendo beat them to the punch as it knew they were going to try to copy isn't surprising especially after the sixaxis tilt shit that happened 2 days after the wii mote announcement.



nitekrawler1285 said:

I would've taken information that was not a interview after that E3, yes.  You instead just called me a fanboy and treated me as if i were such an idiot that i couldn't find google myself.  Besides up until Malstrom started criticizing Nintendo his words were taken for the word amongst a lot of Nintendo fans.

The SKU not being completed isn't stopping Microsoft or Sony from having people work on Motion Games.  But you are right Nintendo has been pretty secretive.  I also didn't know that Nintendo has been kicking around ideas of motion controls before Wii so please don't assume what we know.

That wouldn't be very hard.  They could pull up some of the patents they may not have planned on using and shown them much like Sony or Microsoft would and have done.  

With actual proof i might have been easily convinced.  Instead you called me names and made me feel inferior so I'm probably just not going to listen to much you have to say.  Thanks for assuming my motives and judging me when you could have simply provided evidence that might have changed my mind.  If i truly feel i'm wrong i have no problem saying "gee you are right" or "let's agree to disagree".  I don't call people names and insult their intelligence.  So even if you are correct maybe you need to rethink the manner in which you respond so as it's actually conducive to education of individuals if that is even your goal.

I called you a Sony fanboy because the only people that ever call WM+ a response to Sony Sphere are Sony fanboy's.  Considering you assumed Nintendo was just responsing to Sony, what else should I have concluded from your assertation?  You made no attempt on your own to examine the truth and merely accepted the Sony fanboy theory and worse still you practically called Nintendo, Miyamoto, Iwata and the entire WM+ team a liar.  Given that, how should I have assumed your demeanor other than that of Sony fanboy? 

My apologies if you're not.  But don't assume people are going to grant you a free pass on bias when you profess a fanboy mantra and call Nintendo a bunch of liars.

2004: Nintendo talks about using specific peripherals to prolong the GC instead of releasing a new console.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=9215

WM+ was not built into the Wii remote at launch because the technology at the time cost over $500 per chip.  Nintendo worked with InvenSense to get the product down to a mass market price and so that production could reach mass quantities (product line was just a few hundred a year back in 2006; not to forget the high price tag). 

Basically put the whole thing was supposed to come out for Gamecube but the patents and licensing were way ahead fo the technology and costs.   By the time things were looking plausible, only part of the tech was ready (the accelerometers from Analog Decives [Wii remote] and STMicroelectronics [nun-chuck]).  The MEMS gyroscope from InvenSense was still too expensive until the IDG-650 in Dec 2006.  A litle too late at that point so they began working on how to attach it to the Wii remote.  And now we have WM+.



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Anyone who doesn't follow as closely as you and only looks at major events might feel it is a response as such. Malstrom is no Sony fanboy which is where my perception was solidified. As i stated before his words are given much attention by Nintendo fans.

I didn't call them liars. I said that an interview after the reveal is irrelevant as any company isn't going to say oh yeah we are doing it cause they are trying to take over our turf. It's the way P.R. works. Just like Microsoft is spouting a lot of Nintendo's old rhetoric and trying to casualify their image. But they would never say that it's because of Nintendo beating them.

I asked for proof before the event. Everything else was your assumption. I was asking for a valid information and an interview after the reveal would not have been helpful because of above reason. Thank you for providing it.

P.S. even if i was a Sony fanboy which is only halfway right I still don't see why you couldn't have been mature enough to simply answer the question without resorting to name calling and patronizing. It makes you seem less mature than you might want others to believe. Assuming things only makes an ass of u and me.





noname2200 said:
maykissthebride said:

Grand Slam Tennis - RIDICULOUS MOTION PLUS SUPPORT

Explain yourself.

Do i really need to?



nitekrawler1285 said:
Anyone who doesn't follow as closely as you and only looks at major events might feel it is a response as such. Malstrom is no Sony fanboy which is where my perception was solidified. As i stated before his words are given much attention by Nintendo fans.

I didn't call them liars. I said that an interview after the reveal is irrelevant as any company isn't going to say oh yeah we are doing it cause they are trying to take over our turf. It's the way P.R. works. Just like Microsoft is spouting a lot of Nintendo's old rhetoric and trying to casualify their image. But they would never say that it's because of Nintendo beating them.

I asked for proof before the event. Everything else was your assumption. I was asking for a valid information and an interview after the reveal would not have been helpful because of above reason. Thank you for providing it.

P.S. even if i was a Sony fanboy which is only halfway right I still don't see why you couldn't have been mature enough to simply answer the question without resorting to name calling and patronizing. It makes you seem less mature than you might want others to believe. Assuming things only makes an ass of u and me.



http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/wiimotionplus/vol1_page1.jsp

This explains some history behind it.  But you won't get actual revelaing information before the official reveal considering Nintedo doesn't leak infomation before an announcement.  But you can find pieces such as their intent to put motion tech into the GC, their intent to use gyroscopes (which is what WM+ uses where as the Wii remote uses an accelerometer), the launch of InveSense IDG-600 series in late 2006 (they point out the use of video game controlers as their target) and more. 

The asumption paradox is correct but we're both guilty of it.  But you must also consider that even Maelstrom himself was just assuming.  Did he provide any evidence to support his claim? 

 

 



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maykissthebride said:
noname2200 said:
maykissthebride said:

Grand Slam Tennis - RIDICULOUS MOTION PLUS SUPPORT

Explain yourself.

Do i really need to?

I wouldn't have asked otherwise.



noname2200 said:
maykissthebride said:
noname2200 said:
maykissthebride said:

Grand Slam Tennis - RIDICULOUS MOTION PLUS SUPPORT

Explain yourself.

Do i really need to?

I wouldn't have asked otherwise.

It is not 1-on-1 

You have to do your best to hit the ball as a real player, without the visual feedback.

The "spin your racquet and it will show up in real time" was a ridiculous PR talk. It dosent work.

The game is not fun (and the announcer sucks)

"Ghame phoint nhow"