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outlawauron on 14 November 2009
noname2200 said:
Slimebeast said:

Some people don't seem to understand Bethesda's vision. Their idea is to make RPGs where you have a huge world and tons of stuff to do, it's all about the freedom. Bethesda games are the opposite of linear games like Bioware games.

Instead many people perceive Bethesda as they would be somehow weaker at game craftmanship just because their games don't have as focused storytelling. But it's a misunderstanding of what they wanna do. Also, if you make open world games it's impossible to make them as 'tight' and bug-free as linear games (something that Bethesda gets so much unfair criticism for).

Reviewers get this thankfully. Else Bethesda wouldn't be able to outscore Bioware at Gamerankings and Metacritic reviews (not using that as an argument that Bethesda is better than Bioware though as their average scores are very close around ~90%).

While there are certainly some who prefer Bioware for their tighter and more linear story, I'd venture a guess that Bethesda's bugginess probably...bugs...a lot of people too.

And for the record, pleeeease don't ever refer to Metacritic of Gamerankings result ever again. Every time you do, a Super Mario becomes a regular Mario. True story!

Bioware's recent titles has just as many if not more bugs than Bethesda games.



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I LOVE GIGGS on 14 November 2009

Bioware



jmcoo7 on 14 November 2009

Have to say Bethesda for me , just started replaying Fallout 3 on my 360 and have to say im as hooked as i was first time round , on the other hand gave up with Dragons Age very poor imho .



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noname2200 on 14 November 2009
outlawauron said:

Bioware's recent titles has just as many if not more bugs than Bethesda games.

I disagree wholeheartedly. When entire quests become impossible through zero fault of your own, or characters decide to fly across the world map for no particular reason, then there's a basis of comparison. Bioware's getting worse in terms of quantity, but no one will ever match Bethesda in the quality of bugs department.

I hope.



Feylic on 14 November 2009

I think voting is closed, but still, Bioware X 10000000000000000000000



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zuvuyeay on 14 November 2009

bioware......without doubt



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aragod on 15 November 2009
jmcoo7 said:
Have to say Bethesda for me , just started replaying Fallout 3 on my 360 and have to say im as hooked as i was first time round , on the other hand gave up with Dragons Age very poor imho .

You sir have no taste... imho



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Mise on 15 November 2009
Slimebeast said:


Instead many people perceive Bethesda as they would be somehow weaker at game craftmanship just because their games don't have as focused storytelling. But it's a misunderstanding of what they wanna do. Also, if you make open world games it's impossible to make them as 'tight' and bug-free as linear games (something that Bethesda gets so much unfair criticism for).

One of my bigger issues with Bethesda's games is a very common pitfall that most open-world games fall into - outside the primary quest and some of the bigger side quests, nothing you do either is (or feels like) worth doing.

For example, in Oblivion, you can be the champion of Cyrodiil, the Arch-mage of the mages guild, leader of the Dark Brotherhood and the master of the Fighter's guild - at the same time, no less - and outside of a certain statue and some random comments, nobody either notices or gives a damn. Hell, you can be the god of madness on top of those, and all you get is a summoning spell.

And while games like Shadows of Amn don't have an open world and are more restrictive in terms of exploration, I consider most of their (side)quests better simply because it feels like you're doing something that actually matters beyond loot and EXP - even though it might be the same thing you've done on five other playthrus.

Honestly, having hundreds of sidequests is irrelevant to me, if none of them are actually interesting and/or somehow significant outside magical phallic objects and grinding.

Quantity doesn't really have a quality of it's own in RPGs, methinks.



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nojustno on 15 November 2009

Bioware knows how to tell a story




Zlejedi on 15 November 2009

Bioware hands down - great games with amazing storytelling,
for me everything Bethesda made after Morrowing is crap and dumbing down of RPG ganre.

Now Bioware against Black Isle/Obsidian would be lot more interesting choice for a duel of two RPG master studios.



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