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Torillian on 31 October 2009
Millennium said:
Not a chance. I don't know whether or not it will actually deserve GOTY 2009, but it doesn't matter; even if it does, reviewers won't admit that the Wii is capable of producing a GOTY-caliber game.

Yeah, certainly has never happenned before.  Definitely.....never.....they all hated SMG.



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Ail on 31 October 2009

And stop ditching U2 because you think it only got all these raving reviews because of graphics.
There's a lot more than Graphics to U2...



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Alic0004 on 31 October 2009

Of course it's possible. The game just has to be really good. It already stands out from the crowd -- competition is probably Uncharted 2, Modern Warfare 2, Batman... Dragon Age*?



*For me anyway.  Haven't been this excited for a game in a decade. :)



 

Kantor on 31 October 2009

You're comparing it to Super Mario Galaxy? The same Super Mario Galaxy with a 97 on Metacritic? The same SMG which is the second highest rated game of all time on GameRankings?

I don't think anyone was surprised by that.

As for NSMBWii, highly unlikely. Firstly, it's in 2D and doesn't really reinvent anything, the way SMG did. Secondly, giving GoTY to 2 Mario games in 3 years would be a little off.



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Kantor on 31 October 2009
RolStoppable said:
Kantor said:
You're comparing it to Super Mario Galaxy? The same Super Mario Galaxy with a 97 on Metacritic? The same SMG which is the second highest rated game of all time on GameRankings?

I don't think anyone was surprised by that.

As for NSMBWii, highly unlikely. Firstly, it's in 2D and doesn't really reinvent anything, the way SMG did. Secondly, giving GoTY to 2 Mario games in 3 years would be a little off.

Why would it be off, if the games just so happen to be the best of the year?

Or would you be upset, if most gaming websites would agree that PS3's game of the year was Uncharted (2) in 2007 and 2009?

The thing is, they didn't. CoD4 got the majority of HD awards. More importantly, we have no idea if NSMBWii is as good as SMG, so we can't decide until we know that.



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Xen on 31 October 2009

Not a chance in hell. You have Uncharted 2, Modern Warfare 2, Forza 3... why would NSMB Wii get anything over either one of these? it's not innovating, it's not pushing the Wii, heck, IMO the Wii doesn't deserve such a game - it deserves much better (which it'll get - SMG2).

My bets are on Uncharted 2 GOTY. Unless MW2 steals the show, which it can.



Kenryoku_Maxis on 31 October 2009
Ail said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
68soul said:
Steroid said:
68soul said:
yushire said:
kirballs1 said:
Wait wut is NSMB?

@yushire
May I ask who is that girl in your avatar?

 

New super mario bros. and my avvy was Haruna kojima

 

@puffy----> So Malstrom was right about core gamers after all. I dont want to be frank but SMG isnt the "revolutionary title" on mario 3-d games either. Yeah it have high production values yeah it have many levels but its not different from other mario 3-d games either... Though the explosion and flying part was good though. But then Zelda TP was GOTY too even many fans were disappointed with it including Malstrom including me after I've seen OOT on youtube and it looks like the same, only with incremental upgrades.

 

Now your credibility's gone: you haven't even played it? How could you compare anything, then? You just follow other people's opinions?

Otherwise, i agree with puffy's comments: you just can't compare NSMBWii to SMG in terms of innovation... it has the "wow factor", it has everything needed to please the Mario fans and many gamers who simply want to have fun, but it's not revolutionnary by any means, except maybe its multiplayer gameplay... but "revolutionnary" would still not be the right word to describe it...

And btw, yes, most people are "expecting NSMBWii to be an extremely good game in terms of quality"... when Miyamoto does things right and takes his time, he's the best game designer in the world, and if some people still don't understand this after 25 years, they should just get a life and stop doin' lame comments...

Now, GOTY? In the heart of most Nintendo lovers, sure... and isn't THAT the most important thing? Who cares about haters and snobs, and people with totally different tastes in gaming? Just know what's good for you, and enjoy...

Why does someone have to be a hater or a snob to think that another game seserves GOTY over NSMB?

 

There's an amazing world of gaming out there being played on non-Nintendo consoles too. You don't need to be a "snob" to know that.

 

 

Are you kiddin' me?

For years and years since i'm reading videogames news and websites on the net, all i see is Nintendo's hardwares and softwares named "kiddie" and now "casual", and globally dismissed by a self-proclaimed "gaming elit"... it was already the case in the GC-GBA generation (when Nintendo was gently asked to go "out of business"), and even with the success of Wii-DS, and everything they did right for this industry and for the gamers, it's still not good enough to be treated with some respect...

I mean c'mon, just read some Wii reviews, look at Metacritic and most of the most famous websites: it's all about being "hardcore" and "mature" and stuff: if a game is in 2D, if a game is colourful, if a game is rated E, then it's treated like some thing of the past, that may still have its place on the market to please retro gamers or families or Nintendo fans, but not the "real hardcore" gamer...

The fact that such games may be brillantly designed, may have beautiful and fluid graphics, may need the same skills or even more skills to be completed, and may bring more fun than your typical shooter or RPG out there, seems totally irrelevant in the eyes of yes, "gaming snobs"...

Now, you're right, there are many other excellent games released each year, on any platform, and ALL OF THEM deserve praises and respect... but what i was sayin' is that most Nintendo games are treated as they were "out of touch" with what the "real gamers" may want, or may vote as GOTY in this case... when in fact, when everything's said and done, it's all about tastes, preferences, and of course, bias...

Well said.  To put it simply, only 3D games with snazzy graphics and who are deemed for 'hardcore' game players will be deemed game of the year.  Despite the fact that these games may only be played by 10% or even 5% of the gaming community.

well if you look at the data HD owners actually represent 50% or so of the gamers on consoles, not 5 or 10%...

 

I was referencing the fact that while people will claim Uncharted 2 or a similar game is 'Game of the Year', only around 5% of 'gamers' will play it (if that).  While a much larger percent of the pie will play something like New Super Mario Bros Wii.

Does that make NSMBWii better?  No.  But it does show that more and more, 'GOTY' is a moniker for 'Hardcore, elite, SUPER game all the COOL kids have'.  AKA, just another title for Review sites and publishers to display for sales purposes.



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yushire on 31 October 2009
Kantor said:
You're comparing it to Super Mario Galaxy? The same Super Mario Galaxy with a 97 on Metacritic? The same SMG which is the second highest rated game of all time on GameRankings?

I don't think anyone was surprised by that.

As for NSMBWii, highly unlikely. Firstly, it's in 2D and doesn't really reinvent anything, the way SMG did. Secondly, giving GoTY to 2 Mario games in 3 years would be a little off.

 

 

 

uuh... yeah? And I dont think SMG really did invent everything. Its just the same as other 3-d marios out there. But lets wait and see on what the review scores shows up. I know the review scores is different on the review itself. 



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E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

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Kenryoku_Maxis on 01 November 2009
yushire said:
Kantor said:
You're comparing it to Super Mario Galaxy? The same Super Mario Galaxy with a 97 on Metacritic? The same SMG which is the second highest rated game of all time on GameRankings?

I don't think anyone was surprised by that.

As for NSMBWii, highly unlikely. Firstly, it's in 2D and doesn't really reinvent anything, the way SMG did. Secondly, giving GoTY to 2 Mario games in 3 years would be a little off.

 

 

 

uuh... yeah? And I dont think SMG really did invent everything. Its just the same as other 3-d marios out there. But lets wait and see on what the review scores shows up. I know the review scores is different on the review itself. 

I smell a debate coming.

I don't want to start it, but I'll just say that Mario Galaxy isn't a simple upgrade of the same 3D Mario formula and did invent new things.  In fact, many think it reinvigorated a stagnant Platformer genre.



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Naum on 01 November 2009

If it's not even nominated then there is something really really wrong with the gaming world...

 

 

WTF is this talk about Inovation??? not even 1/3 of all the so called games some of you are talking about have anything remotely that be called inovating except some prettier graphics.

 

If a 2D super mario bros game with 80 levels and up to 4 players on screen at the same time  and in over 18+ years since last console mario 2D game isn't "inovated" enough I don't know what is....



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