Kantor? You raise a good point, in my excuse it was late in the night and I hadn't any sleep....does that count?

Actually pretty good with X-Mas coming up. People need to stop judging games by how much they sell.

Uncharted 2 isn't selling as well as some of the games released earlier this year, but I bet you can't give one that reaches the level of its presentation.

How easily we forget, yes there were just as much disapointment of MGS4 first week as with Uncharted. We have have become a generation of winers, we complain because we want everything, every game to be the best because it's on our platform. We have distroyed more good games than any other times. only in this can a game as good as Resistaance 2 is considered bad.

Proof of MGS4 WEEK. I'll be adding more.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=29853

LOL! MGS4 is also under expectations... yet it's above them... how does that work...

I am not dissapointed but I did change my expectations from under half a million to over a million its first week. So you can say I am neutral about the situation

I think the reasons you listed point to it not doing as well as it should have.

I still think it did well, but:

A first game in the series very well reviewed and lauded

Excellent word of mouth

Great advertising

Second game oozes quality

High reviews

Multiplayer

All of these things should point to a game being a big success

Maybe it should have done more. The install base in 360 and PS3 sales is close enough that exclusive AAA games should be doing gangbusters. Is there a huge percentage of PS3 owners using the machine strictly as a blueray device or what?

wow people were actually disappointed

I said they were Ok = good

but EVEN leo-j said he was disappointed

HOW did that happen!!!!!!!

EDIT:

actually in the thread Starcraft said MGS4 software EXCEEDED ALL expectations in ALL regions

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=875176

So you loose muwhahaha!!!!!!

I think the bigger question is when one is 'disappointed', compared to what expectations? 1st week sales are like box office sales for 1st week for a movie. It may have some predictive value for long term sales. Thats about it.

To me when looking at 1st week sales, I think a more accurate number would be to look at sales numbers as a percentage of user base. For example, U2 would have a 1st week attach rate of 3.2%. The problem with U1 is that it was released at different times, in different regions, and it was not front loaded like U2 (U1 had greater sales week 2 and week 3, and then went down) because the the game was not hyped and marketed like U2, and word of mouth increased sales. But if we look at week 1 sales in US (which is where it launched 1st), the attach rate was 1.3% (it goes to 2% in week 2). Factoring in that sequels on the same console traditionally do not do as welll, I would say that U2 is certainlly not a disappointment compared to U1. The difference being that U2 was definately quite front loaded, I suspect that U2 will end up with similar total sales as U1 (as that game sold well long term because it was not front loaded). If you compare U2 to games on same console, then look at % again (KZ2 was at 3.4%, thus sold better than U2 based on console base, but pretty close).

If one is 'disappointed' in sales because one is comparing to the other console, then that is the problem of Sony and Naughty Dog for being console specific and not multiplatform. Most of us would agree that if the game was on the Xbox, it probably would have had 2-3 times the sales in 1st week, but that is directly proportional to the fact that Americans like shooters.

Don't even bother comparing with Halo 3 as the % on that game was 32% (3.8 million sales on 11.7 console base). NO game will come close to that (because the console base was low). MW2 has a chance at beating total sales, but not based on consoles user base.

I wasn't comparing it to anyone else originally, I was just saying it deserved a 1mil

so higher metacritic=goty?  lol no mw2 will get goty easily stop creaming yourself over this game