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Carl2291 said:
Dark Chaos said:
RVDondaPC said:
Dark Chaos said:
Acevil said:

Congratulation Sony for beating your competition by 4 million using this method, you only lost 30-40% marketshare in the process, almost ruined your image and help introduce a couple of the worse PR statements I have ever heard. All in all I am impressed.

Anyyways enough pointing out the obvious, back to playing Uncharted 2.


Hit it right in the head. But congrats SONY. After beating MS by 100,000,000 consoles your beating MS by 4,000,000 on a aligned launch and not to mention not earning a single penny with the PS3. But hey its time to PARTY!!!

Just wait till next gen when Google has gobbled up all of MS's other revenue streams so MS can't afford to subsidize the XBOX brand's loses anymore and they release their inferior product at a higher price and lose all of their marketshare back to the Playstation. 

Okie. So atleast you admit the PS3 has been a failure when compared to the PS2.

If we are talking home consoles... Everything but the Wii is a failure when compared to the PS2.

Actually when comparing makre share lose or gain, you compare by previous same groups. So nintendo gamecube to nintendo wii, microsoft xbox to the 360, gameboy to gameboy advance, so on and so on. Microsoft and Nintendo both have gained in marketshare, while sony has lost marketshare.

Also market share is on the mind of Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. They also determine success for the brand by profit, image and other variables. In the end it is all about profit, more than anything.



 

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Carl2291 said:
Garnett said:

@Carl

The Gamecube didnt sell 150 million consoles, Nintendo didnt say that people will buy a $600 console with no games.

What are you talking about?

@Dark Chaos.

I see, but the point still stands. When compared to the PS2... The Wii is the only console that can match or surpass it. Everything else is a failure.

Isn't that a little too black and white? I mean there are different levels of failure. PS3 being the biggest ever financially



Acevil said:
Carl2291 said:
Dark Chaos said:
RVDondaPC said:
Dark Chaos said:
Acevil said:

Congratulation Sony for beating your competition by 4 million using this method, you only lost 30-40% marketshare in the process, almost ruined your image and help introduce a couple of the worse PR statements I have ever heard. All in all I am impressed.

Anyyways enough pointing out the obvious, back to playing Uncharted 2.


Hit it right in the head. But congrats SONY. After beating MS by 100,000,000 consoles your beating MS by 4,000,000 on a aligned launch and not to mention not earning a single penny with the PS3. But hey its time to PARTY!!!

Just wait till next gen when Google has gobbled up all of MS's other revenue streams so MS can't afford to subsidize the XBOX brand's loses anymore and they release their inferior product at a higher price and lose all of their marketshare back to the Playstation. 

Okie. So atleast you admit the PS3 has been a failure when compared to the PS2.

If we are talking home consoles... Everything but the Wii is a failure when compared to the PS2.

Actually when comparing makre share lose or gain, you compare by family. So nintendo gamecube to nintendo wii, microsoft xbox to the 360, gameboy to gameboy advance, so on and so on. Microsoft and Nintendo both have gained in marketshare, while sony has lost marketshare. Also market share is on the mind of Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. They also determine success for the brand by profit, image and other variables. In the end it is all about profit, more than anything.

I was talking about sales-wise, but i see your point.

Although i disagree, because by that logic PS3 would need to hit 70%(or whatever it was) marketshare... To be condiered a success?



                            

Carl2291 said:
Garnett said:

@Carl

The Gamecube didnt sell 150 million consoles, Nintendo didnt say that people will buy a $600 console with no games.

What are you talking about?

@Dark Chaos.

I see, but the point still stands. When compared to the PS2... The Wii is the only console that can match or surpass it. Everything else is a failure.

So, I guess your telling me. If a car brand (Brand A) starts sell a midsize sedan similar to the Honda Civic. In the first five years:

Civic = 10,000,000

Brand A= 2,000,000

Civic is a huge success.

Now in the next five years, we see new iterations of both cars and,

Civic = 5,000,000

Brand A = 6,000,000

And by you both are failures?? Is this how you judge whether a product is successful or not?



Boneitis said:
Carl2291 said:
Garnett said:

@Carl

The Gamecube didnt sell 150 million consoles, Nintendo didnt say that people will buy a $600 console with no games.

What are you talking about?

@Dark Chaos.

I see, but the point still stands. When compared to the PS2... The Wii is the only console that can match or surpass it. Everything else is a failure.

Isn't that a little too black and white? I mean there are different levels of failure. PS3 being the biggest ever financially

As i just said im talking about sales.

Sales are afterall the main topic of the thread.



                            

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"If we are talking home consoles... Everything but the Wii is a failure when compared to the PS2."

 

The gamecube didnt sell 150 million, the Wii is a success compared to the PS2, much like the 360 is a success compared to the Xbox 1, the PS3 how ever....



Carl2291 said:
Acevil said:
Carl2291 said:
Dark Chaos said:
RVDondaPC said:
Dark Chaos said:
Acevil said:

Congratulation Sony for beating your competition by 4 million using this method, you only lost 30-40% marketshare in the process, almost ruined your image and help introduce a couple of the worse PR statements I have ever heard. All in all I am impressed.

Anyyways enough pointing out the obvious, back to playing Uncharted 2.


Hit it right in the head. But congrats SONY. After beating MS by 100,000,000 consoles your beating MS by 4,000,000 on a aligned launch and not to mention not earning a single penny with the PS3. But hey its time to PARTY!!!

Just wait till next gen when Google has gobbled up all of MS's other revenue streams so MS can't afford to subsidize the XBOX brand's loses anymore and they release their inferior product at a higher price and lose all of their marketshare back to the Playstation. 

Okie. So atleast you admit the PS3 has been a failure when compared to the PS2.

If we are talking home consoles... Everything but the Wii is a failure when compared to the PS2.

Actually when comparing makre share lose or gain, you compare by family. So nintendo gamecube to nintendo wii, microsoft xbox to the 360, gameboy to gameboy advance, so on and so on. Microsoft and Nintendo both have gained in marketshare, while sony has lost marketshare. Also market share is on the mind of Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. They also determine success for the brand by profit, image and other variables. In the end it is all about profit, more than anything.

I was talking about sales-wise, but i see your point.

Although i disagree, because by that logic PS3 would need to hit 70%(or whatever it was) marketshare... To be condiered a success?

I was never saying it is sucessful or a failure (too early), I am pointing out to the op, that other variables must be used. Like marketshare, environment and profit.

I consider a product sucessful if it makes profit overall (which the ps3 has not done and might not be able to). I consider it very sucessful when it does everything, like gain marketshare, gain profit, improve image, and other things.



 

Ps3 is a success compared to the PSP!



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Garnett said:

"If we are talking home consoles... Everything but the Wii is a failure when compared to the PS2."

 

The gamecube didnt sell 150 million, the Wii is a success compared to the PS2, much like the 360 is a success compared to the Xbox 1, the PS3 how ever....

The Wii is the only success when compared to what PS2 did/ is still doing.

Notice the "when compared to PS2" part.



                            

@Carl

 

i meant the Wii isnt a success compared to the gamecube, my bad.

 

But yeah the PS3 isnt doign what its older/less powerful brother did, even with Blue Ray, HDD and Free online play. Oh and the best console graphics.