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baloofarsan said:
JaggedSac said:



4. Vocal recognition out of the box. If Natal is there, developers know that this capability is there. Vocal recognition is not new, but having it standard and universal is a major thing. No need for an internet connection to download a patch to allow for this functionality. They also will have an SDK for this so no need to either develop the software or purchase third party software. Having a universal and standard system for vocal recognition makes it easier and more likely for developers to utilize it. Even if only playing with the controller games can make use of this.

I wonder how non-English speaking people will be treated. Will there be a possibility to speak in Swedish and get the Natal to understand. If not it will alienate a lot of people.

 

I am sure they just provide the tokenizations of syllables as output from Natal.  It is up to the developers to utilize the tokens.  Providing a dictionary for tokens inside of Natal would probably be too much memory.  This is a much more open way of doing things as well.



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Keep_the_change said:
nightsurge said:
Keep_the_change said:
I am not excited at all. It's a camera.

You seriously cannot resist any chance to troll and downplay Natal, can you?

It's actually 2 cameras, a 3D imaging and motion tracking device, a multi-array microphone, and an onboard processing unit.  If you want a camera, look no further than the PS Eye and EyeToy before that.  Or look at the Xbox 360 Vision Camera if you want a camera.

For many extras you had in a car, it doesn't make it not being a car.

 

Natal is a camera. 

Natal is Natal.  It HAS 2 cameras, a 3D imaging and motion tracking device, a multi-array microphone, and an onboard processing unit.

 

If you seriously believe the argument you just made is legitimate then the PS3 is an Internet Browser, you are just an animal on this planet of animals, etc, etc.

Just stop your trolling, ok?  We get you don't like it and think it will flop.  Trust me, we all get that by now so you don't have to keep tooting your own horn anymore.



The Natal launch will definatley be a spectacle to see, even if it flops. So yea, I'm excited.



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Keep_the_change said:
nightsurge said:
Keep_the_change said:
I am not excited at all. It's a camera.

You seriously cannot resist any chance to troll and downplay Natal, can you?

It's actually 2 cameras, a 3D imaging and motion tracking device, a multi-array microphone, and an onboard processing unit.  If you want a camera, look no further than the PS Eye and EyeToy before that.  Or look at the Xbox 360 Vision Camera if you want a camera.

For many extras you had in a car, it doesn't make it not being a car.

 

Natal is a camera. 

Would you call 2 cars and a motocycle bound together a car?  That would be a more correct comparison.



The only game I see working like a charm on Natal is a Nintendog-esque game.

IF natal is able to do what they claim it is.



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JaggedSac said:
Keep_the_change said:
nightsurge said:
Keep_the_change said:
I am not excited at all. It's a camera.

You seriously cannot resist any chance to troll and downplay Natal, can you?

It's actually 2 cameras, a 3D imaging and motion tracking device, a multi-array microphone, and an onboard processing unit.  If you want a camera, look no further than the PS Eye and EyeToy before that.  Or look at the Xbox 360 Vision Camera if you want a camera.

For many extras you had in a car, it doesn't make it not being a car.

 

Natal is a camera. 

Would you call 2 cars and a motocycle bound together a car?  That would be a more correct comparison.

Do you mean Bugatti Veyron? The car with 2 cross engines?

 

Yes, it's a car.



MontanaHatchet said:
TRios_Zen said:
MontanaHatchet said:
TRios_Zen said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Natal likely won't do anything in Japan. Worldwide, it might give it a boost, but I really doubt it will make any significant changes in sales. Should be an interesting add-on though. Sadly, it's being overhyped by 360 fans and is bound to disappoint many. Just wait until the thing is at least somewhat close to coming out.

On these boards there are 5 Natal sucks threads for every 1 Natal is cool... personally I'm just not sure how that can be considered over-hyping.

In fact, your estimation that it will have no effect in Japan, and very little effect everywhere else, seems MUCH more in tune with the sentiment of the majority of folks on VGChartz.  I mean honestly, HOW many people are there here REALLY over-hyping this?

On topic, I'm excited to hear what GAMES they announce for Natal.  I think the evolution of the controller (as brought to the mainstream by the success of Wii) is important to the development life-cycle of videogames going forward.  IF (a big IF), Natal is a possible future of that evolution, yeah, then yes it would be cool to "be on the ground floor" so to speak.

I don't expect it to magically generate sales though.  If the games are good and it offers new (and fun) experiences, you should HOPE it succeeds.  IF it doesn't, then we should hope it fails.

Really? Well just show me 5 "Natal Sucks" threads for this thread, and then 5 more for every other positive thread about Natal you find. Go ahead, have a blast.

I don't think it will have a big effect in Japan because the console launched there years ago, and you're not going to see a massive change in opinion for the 360 there when a string of RPGs from big name developers barely made a dent. Now obviously people on Vgchartz that don't even like the 360 won't be hyping or overhyping Natal. But the 360 fans seem so excited that maybe something will draw in those casuals. Let's wait and see. Frankly, it looks like it could be interesting in some situations, but ironically not very versatile.

I hope it fails because I'd rather shoot with a remote than shoot with nothing.

Why would I go through the trouble of proving my opinion?  Your opinion differs, and that is cool, but your opinion is NOT fact.  WHy don't you SHOW me all the threads where this is overhyped?  Have a blast too - HAHA!

If the best NATAL has to offer is shooting things with my hand, I absolutely hope it fails as well.  Hell I've played LOTS of games that have guns as peripherals.  That is not evolution, shit, we'd be going BACKWARDS.

You're right, why should you prove what you say? It's not like you ever had a good point in the first place. Here are just some of the threads hyping the crap out of Natal:

Here News Article

Here News Article

Here News Article

Here Valid but fanboy created and old

And here Leo-J of all people... sheesh get better evidence (also old)

If I repeated any, my apologies. And if I didn't, please find me 25 threads putting Natal down. In that time, maybe I could find some more threads telling us how amazing Natal will be. I'm not sure why you went where you went with your last sentence, but I'll explain mine.

This is driving with the Wii:

This is driving with Natal:

Insert picture using your own racing steering wheel from that Mustang you used to own, or using a steering wheel cover, or even a Wii peripheral you never should have bought because it added nothing, or any round object you want to use.  Seems to me using my choice of whatever I want makes for a better experience :)

I just wonder which one is more immersive.

As for actual threads that weren't news and were hyping, you have 2 (though one barely qualifies) and those are from June.  And if you go through all those threads you will see the majority of people there just to bash it like always, not hype it.  There are far more people here to bach Natal than praise it.

Here are 4 from the last week that are downplaying and trying to be negative about Natal, only one of which is a news article:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=87291

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=87239

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=87883

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=88117



Keep_the_change said:
JaggedSac said:
Keep_the_change said:

For many extras you had in a car, it doesn't make it not being a car.

 

Natal is a camera. 

Would you call 2 cars and a motocycle bound together a car?  That would be a more correct comparison.

Do you mean Bugatti Veyron? The car with 2 cross engines?

 

Yes, it's a car.

Are you being serious?

That would not be 2 cars and a motorcycle put together.  That would be two engines put together inside one car.  Engine != car.  Pretty simple concept.  Should I make a picture for you.  Maybe a little pop up book to help explain.



JaggedSac said:
Keep_the_change said:
JaggedSac said:
Keep_the_change said:

For many extras you had in a car, it doesn't make it not being a car.

 

Natal is a camera. 

Would you call 2 cars and a motocycle bound together a car?  That would be a more correct comparison.

Do you mean Bugatti Veyron? The car with 2 cross engines?

 

Yes, it's a car.

Are you being serious?

That would not be 2 cars and a motorcycle put together.  That would be two engines put together inside one car.  Engine != car.  Pretty simple concept.  Should I make a picture for you.  Maybe a little pop up book to help explain.

Could not have said it better myself.



Show me one good game or use for that thing, really.