Oh I am sorry, are you just now getting back from your 7 month vacation to the moon that started just before E3 time?

There were countless videos showing its uses and games it currently worked with.

Show me one good reason why you felt the need to post that response, really.

It doesn't matter if it's a news article, it's that people surround the news article with hype. If someone posts an article that hypes up something, and people hype it up as well, would you say that that is not hyping something? I filled his quota, which is that he should have provided me with at least 25 threads saying Natal is bad (or some other negative description). And even if we say BARELY 2, he still needs to show me 10. Which he would never do.

In order for Natal to be truly successful, it would have to work for thousands of different games as a general controller (such as the Wii-mote). That doesn't look like it will be happening anytime soon. As well, Nintendo jumped in with their innovation at a time when the market was truly shifting. Microsoft jumping it 5 years late with Natal isn't exactly going to turn heads.

I feel rather anxious about the whole thing. I mean I don't mind if it isn't a big success,but if that were to happen then MS will go to war to ensure it's acceptance. I'm afraid of what Natal will do to the market.

Natal itself might not have the ability to disrupt the entire gaming world, but MS sure has.

Wii Fit, which is a glorified scale, has sold over 22 million.  If Natal, which is MUCH MORE than a glorified scale, sells that much just by itself, would it be considered a success?

For the record, if anybody says anything except 'yes' to that question, then they need some serious help.  I mean serious, professional help.

Lenses != camera.

Natal are a couple of lenses put together inside one camera.

Natal is a camera.

What's with the angst dude?  People can't have differing opinions all of a sudden?  Because I don't have a laundry list of posts ready to combat you with, clearly I have no point, right?  Come on dude, grow up a little, okay?  All disagreements don't have to be so acrimonious. 

Back on topic, you stated that you wanted to do better than shooting with your fingers...  I was simply stating, that shooting with peripherals (or your fingers) was moving backwards, NOT forwards. 

But this is pointless, you seem ready to discount Natal a year before release with no games announced yet; I on the other hand am a little bit more optimistic for it's chances.  That is the gist of our disagreement, and I'm totally cool with leaving it at that.

No.  Natal is 2 cameras + cpu + multi-array microphone.

Give. It. Up. Troll.

No, you said there is 5 threads hating on Natal for every 1 positive thread. I've yet to see anything from you that says that is anywhere near accurate. Now, that was your point, and you can't prove it. I'm sorry if that bothers you so much. And you're telling me to grow up? Debate the point at hand instead of being defensive. Shooting with peripherals isn't moving backwards, it's just advancing in something that has existed for many years. Moving backwards would be something like going back to cartridges or using AAs in handhelds. And I thought Natal did have some games announced at least, but if it doesn't, that's even more worrying. Gee. Well, I certainly look forward to seeing what it can do, but let's not overhype the damn thing. It will lead to disappointment.

@ nightsurge

I don't know if you're aware but ordinary cameras, let's say a Sony Handycam for example, also has CPU and a microphone.

That's standart.

Natal is a camera. Give. It. Up. And don't call me troll, next time you're reported, you should not ofend members, that's against the forum rules.

How am I offending anyone?  You are a troll.  This is not an insult, but a definition of your existence in this thread or any Natal thread.

I don't know if YOU are aware, but a Sony handycam's CPU can do nothing but about 8 or 10 simple command processes.  The mic in a standard camera is of poor mono-quality, and a standard camera cannot capture 3D motion and recreate it into a game.

Natal is like a digital camera + an infrared depth camera + a CPU for complex model computations as well as other computations such as how it knows where you are dispite having limited bodyparts visible or any interference + a multiarray microphone to know the location the sound is coming from + a USB interface so you could theoretically take your Natal with you to show off at a friend's house without needing any other peripherals.

Natal is an advanced gaming interface. End of story.  Now I really should stop feeding the troll, but ignorance just always gets to me.  I'm not flaming you, I am trying to help you understand, but being a troll, it is rather difficult because they are very persistent.