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NJ5 on 16 October 2007
Wojtas said:
Well yeah, if i implied that any of the next gen consoles are the main stage for the game, i did so unintentionally. Anyway you also validate my point, that a game such as PES2008, although being an excellent game, by no means should be used as a system seller title.

Yes, I was more extending your point than disagreeing, sorry if the wording made it seem otherwise ;)

 



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Mars on 16 October 2007
HappySqurriel said:
Mars said:
HappySqurriel said:
Mars said:
HappySqurriel said:

expensive, has a solid line-up, and is very (VERY) family friendly; and the XBox 360 easily has the best line-up of the three with Bio-Shock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, and versions of most of the PS3's strongest titles.


Who you kidding with that ?

Since day one PS3 strongest titles were Sony made, and it wont change any time soon with Ratchet or Uncharted. Maybe you think thsoe two will apper on 360 ?


A couple of months ago Call of Duty 4, Army of Two, Assassin's Creed, Half Life 2: The Orange Box, and Devil May Cry 4 were considered pretty big games ...


They are pretty big, but you said PS3 strongest and neither one you said is that.


So you think that having 2 excluisve games (Ratchet and Clank and Uncharted) which do not have a proven track record of massive sales (or of massive critical acclaim) will somehow make up for the fact that (pretty much) every other major game on the PS3 is available on the XBox 360 this holiday season?

Expect disapointment ...


Just what disapointment am i to expect ?

makingmusic476 on 16 October 2007
TWRoO said:
makingmusic476 said:
carlos710 said:
makingmusic476 said:
Ishy said:
no way 11 million sold by march 08, maybe 9 mill tho

The ps3 should be very close to 9 mil. by the end of the year. Why would it take them until March to sell that many?


Because they wont be close to 9 mil by end of the year.

Im willing to bet on that, they won't reach even 8 million on 2007


Why? Generally, 50% of CE sales occur during the 4th quarter of the calendar year, because of the holiday saeson. For example, last year, the 360 had only managed to sell ~4.5 mil. consoles worldwide by the end of September. However, it managed to sell another ~4 mil. consoles throughout the holidays, bringing it's year end totalsclose to 9 mil. consoles sold. Why would the same not happen for the ps3? Especially with the recent price drops and addition of the 40gb SKU. Not to mention the fact the ps3 is just now getting good games, like R&C5 and Uncharted.


You have that quite right in theory, but quite wrong in numbers.

360 1st Jan 2006 - 1st Oct 2006 = 3.48 million ....(you forgot the 360 was released before Jan)
360 1st Oct 2006 - 31st Dec 2006 = 3.16 million (though this was the first time it had lots of supply everywhere)

so generally the last quarter is almost half the other 3 quarters. (i would argue that its much closer to 50/50 if you use the first 2/3 and the last 1/3....but because of companies using quarter years for financials its easier this way)

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360 31st Dec 2006 - 30th Sept 2007 = 3.66 million (i think similar sales to last year for last quarter will be probable...about 3.1 mil)

PS3 31st Dec 2006 - 30th Sept 2007 = 3.65 million (laughably close sales....i expect slightly more than 360 sales for last quarter....about 3.2-3.3 million.....which puts the PS3 at slightly over 8 million)


 Ah. For both the ps3 and 360, I was using numbers from release day until September of the following year, which would've been around 4 mil. for both.  I was wrong about the holiday numbers, you got me there.

Ultimately, the ps3's holiday sales depend on the longevity of the 40gb demand, and the marketing of R&C5 and UNcharted.  If they were to market Uncharted to the level of Gears, it could boost sales a good bit. 



darthdevidem on 16 October 2007

@Happy Squirel

what kind of holiday Ps3 sales would be "disappointing for you"



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Wojtas on 16 October 2007
Mars said:
Wojtas said:
Well fancy that Mars. You mean that Assasins Creed isn't a strong title now that it's going to be released on the xbox? Maybe you're talking about GTA 4? No wait, you must be talking about CoD 4: Modern Warfare. Stop acting the goat.

He said strongest titles.

And i said Ratchet and Uncharted NOT games coming out in 2008, you want to comapre 08 feel free top post anything multiplatform aginast Killzone LittleBigPlanet GranTurismo5, also exclusives like MGS4 or FF13.

And my original post still stands, Sony own games are PS3s strongest and sales prove me right.

i get it you two want to make the PS3 look bad in any way possible, saying its best games are on 360 is one of them but we all know that not true. So cut the crap and post something intelligent.

LittleBigPlanet isn't a big title man, it still has to prove itself. Lair was supposed to be a massive title, look how it ended. Cut the crap with announcing exclusive games as Sony games. Those are 3rd party no matter how you look at them. But i guess that we have to get back to the point. And the point was that Sony has nothing on the xbox's winter lineup this season. And you know that. You're trying hard to gat away from that fact, now why would you do that?

 



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W29 on 16 October 2007

Thats good to see it has spiked in sales in Europe. I just hope it stays steady and third parties can release some more games. Can't wait till FFXIII comes out. Cause the PS3 will be bought.



Mars on 16 October 2007
makingmusic476 said:
 

Ah. For both the ps3 and 360, I was using numbers from release day until September of the following year, which would've been around 4 mil. for both. I was wrong about the holiday numbers, you got me there.

Ultimately, the ps3's holiday sales depend on the longevity of the 40gb demand, and the marketing of R&C5 and UNcharted. If they were to market Uncharted to the level of Gears, it could boost sales a good bit.


 On the ign beyond podcast, a person form Naughty Dog said Sony see Uncharted as big title for the holidays.  Wecan expect a big marketing push for it.



Mars on 16 October 2007
Wojtas said:
Mars said:
Wojtas said:
Well fancy that Mars. You mean that Assasins Creed isn't a strong title now that it's going to be released on the xbox? Maybe you're talking about GTA 4? No wait, you must be talking about CoD 4: Modern Warfare. Stop acting the goat.

He said strongest titles.

And i said Ratchet and Uncharted NOT games coming out in 2008, you want to comapre 08 feel free top post anything multiplatform aginast Killzone LittleBigPlanet GranTurismo5, also exclusives like MGS4 or FF13.

And my original post still stands, Sony own games are PS3s strongest and sales prove me right.

i get it you two want to make the PS3 look bad in any way possible, saying its best games are on 360 is one of them but we all know that not true. So cut the crap and post something intelligent.

LittleBigPlanet isn't a big title man, it still has to prove itself. Lair was supposed to be a massive title, look how it ended. Cut the crap with announcing exclusive games as Sony games. Those are 3rd party no matter how you look at them. But i guess that we have to get back to the point. And the point was that Sony has nothing on the xbox's winter lineup this season. And you know that. You're trying hard to gat away from that fact, now why would you do that?

 


 I find your desperant appempt to discredit anything Sony quite funny.

 Well what are these MS big winter titles that you fail to even mention ? you post alot but it always lacks any solid info.

 



carlos710 on 16 October 2007
Mars said:
Wojtas said:
Well fancy that Mars. You mean that Assasins Creed isn't a strong title now that it's going to be released on the xbox? Maybe you're talking about GTA 4? No wait, you must be talking about CoD 4: Modern Warfare. Stop acting the goat.

He said strongest titles.

And i said Ratchet and Uncharted NOT games coming out in 2008, you want to comapre 08 feel free top post anything multiplatform aginast Killzone LittleBigPlanet GranTurismo5, also exclusives like MGS4 or FF13.

And my original post still stands, Sony own games are PS3s strongest and sales prove me right.

i get it you two want to make the PS3 look bad in any way possible, saying its best games are on 360 is one of them but we all know that not true. So cut the crap and post something intelligent.


 rofl at Killzone or LittleBigplanet vs Mario kart / Smash bros brawl

2008 = Even bigger Nintendomination 

  



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Mars on 16 October 2007
carlos710 said:
Mars said:
Wojtas said:
Well fancy that Mars. You mean that Assasins Creed isn't a strong title now that it's going to be released on the xbox? Maybe you're talking about GTA 4? No wait, you must be talking about CoD 4: Modern Warfare. Stop acting the goat.

He said strongest titles.

And i said Ratchet and Uncharted NOT games coming out in 2008, you want to comapre 08 feel free top post anything multiplatform aginast Killzone LittleBigPlanet GranTurismo5, also exclusives like MGS4 or FF13.

And my original post still stands, Sony own games are PS3s strongest and sales prove me right.

i get it you two want to make the PS3 look bad in any way possible, saying its best games are on 360 is one of them but we all know that not true. So cut the crap and post something intelligent.


rofl at Killzone or LittleBigplanet vs Mario kart / Smash bros brawl

2008 = Even bigger Nintendomination

 


 Wow what a intelligent insightfull post.  Ill try to get down to your level.

 rofl Mario/Smash vs Final Fantasy 13 / Gran Turismo 5
2008 = death of wiination.

 

hey that was pretty fun.