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BoleroOfFire on 11 September 2009

^^Or to your friend's 100 inch projector.

Still not innovative though.




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joora on 11 September 2009
Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
Ail said:
Senlis said:
ph4nt said:
outlawauron said:
ph4nt said:
outlawauron said:
Senlis said:
Carl2291 said:
tedsteriscool said:
ph4nt said:
tedsteriscool said:
Millennium said:
One week after a price drop on the other two systems is not a valid sample for judging basically anything. In 2-3 weeks, the Wii will be back in first where it belongs.

And why does it "belong" in first place?

Because the best selling system should belong in first place?

Actually, the best selling system (PS2) is consistently in last place.

I'd like to know his reasoning as to why the Wii deserves to reclaim first place...

Its his favourite console. That is why.

Cause it's original, innovative and has good games?

You could say the same about the other consoles.

Umm, actually you can't.

So, the PS3 and 360 do not have anything original, innovative, or good?

 

News to me!

please, enlighten me.

360 made improvemetns to live, that's the only thing I can really consider somewhat innovative or original.

As for original and innovative, the PS3 is the only things that did anything innovative and that was blue ray.  Can you name any other feature that is innovative.  (Don't give me any "it was the first console to do [something] that the PC was already doing")

XBOX360 live isn't very innovative.  It just adapted what PCs have had for years and taken it to the consoles.

 

You can now purchase and stream movies to your TV with either HD console, that is quite a big change from last gen....

Sure you've been able to stream movies on a PC for a while but there's a huge difference between streaming on your PC and in your living room on your 42 inch HD TV..........

Not if you hook up your PC to your 42 inch TV.

Most people don't have their PC next to their TV and having to move it each time you want to watch a movie is quite a pain.

That and watching a movie on the Xbox360 or the PS3 is a lot more casual friendly that it is ona  PC hooked up to a TV..

It takes me 2 minutes if I have guests to rent a movie and start watching it on the PS3.

A lot less than it would take to unplug the PC, bring it in the living room, replug it, ( I woudn't even know how to plug the sound into my home theater), and then get on netflix and order a movie...Besides how many PC users even have a spare HDMI cable to plug their PC to their TV ?

Plugging your PC to your TV is still not something most people know how to do or would consider, sorry...

I have a 13inch dell XPS notebook. Takes me less than one minute to plug it in (HDMI) to the TV and get it running.

 



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Kasz216 on 11 September 2009

Do you know how to hook up your 360 or PS3 to you TV?

Yes? Then you know how to hook up your PC to your TV.

Doing something PC is doing isn't innovative.  If your PS3 could also make coffee... that's not innovation.



Ail on 11 September 2009
joora said:
Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
Ail said:
Senlis said:
ph4nt said:
outlawauron said:
ph4nt said:
outlawauron said:
Senlis said:
Carl2291 said:
tedsteriscool said:
ph4nt said:
tedsteriscool said:
Millennium said:
One week after a price drop on the other two systems is not a valid sample for judging basically anything. In 2-3 weeks, the Wii will be back in first where it belongs.

And why does it "belong" in first place?

Because the best selling system should belong in first place?

Actually, the best selling system (PS2) is consistently in last place.

I'd like to know his reasoning as to why the Wii deserves to reclaim first place...

Its his favourite console. That is why.

Cause it's original, innovative and has good games?

You could say the same about the other consoles.

Umm, actually you can't.

So, the PS3 and 360 do not have anything original, innovative, or good?

 

News to me!

please, enlighten me.

360 made improvemetns to live, that's the only thing I can really consider somewhat innovative or original.

As for original and innovative, the PS3 is the only things that did anything innovative and that was blue ray.  Can you name any other feature that is innovative.  (Don't give me any "it was the first console to do [something] that the PC was already doing")

XBOX360 live isn't very innovative.  It just adapted what PCs have had for years and taken it to the consoles.

 

You can now purchase and stream movies to your TV with either HD console, that is quite a big change from last gen....

Sure you've been able to stream movies on a PC for a while but there's a huge difference between streaming on your PC and in your living room on your 42 inch HD TV..........

Not if you hook up your PC to your 42 inch TV.

Most people don't have their PC next to their TV and having to move it each time you want to watch a movie is quite a pain.

That and watching a movie on the Xbox360 or the PS3 is a lot more casual friendly that it is ona  PC hooked up to a TV..

It takes me 2 minutes if I have guests to rent a movie and start watching it on the PS3.

A lot less than it would take to unplug the PC, bring it in the living room, replug it, ( I woudn't even know how to plug the sound into my home theater), and then get on netflix and order a movie...Besides how many PC users even have a spare HDMI cable to plug their PC to their TV ?

Plugging your PC to your TV is still not something most people know how to do or would consider, sorry...

I have a 13inch dell XPS notebook. Takes me less than one minute to plug it in (HDMI) to the TV and get it running.

 

 

And how many movies have you rented on your laptop to watch on your TV so far ?



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Senlis on 11 September 2009
Ail said:
Kasz216 said:
Ail said:
Senlis said:
ph4nt said:
outlawauron said:

So, the PS3 and 360 do not have anything original, innovative, or good?

 

News to me!

please, enlighten me.

360 made improvemetns to live, that's the only thing I can really consider somewhat innovative or original.

As for original and innovative, the PS3 is the only things that did anything innovative and that was blue ray.  Can you name any other feature that is innovative.  (Don't give me any "it was the first console to do [something] that the PC was already doing")

XBOX360 live isn't very innovative.  It just adapted what PCs have had for years and taken it to the consoles.

 

You can now purchase and stream movies to your TV with either HD console, that is quite a big change from last gen....

Sure you've been able to stream movies on a PC for a while but there's a huge difference between streaming on your PC and in your living room on your 42 inch HD TV..........

Not if you hook up your PC to your 42 inch TV.

Most people don't have their PC next to their TV and having to move it each time you want to watch a movie is quite a pain.

That and watching a movie on the Xbox360 or the PS3 is a lot more casual friendly that it is ona  PC hooked up to a TV..

It takes me 2 minutes if I have guests to rent a movie and start watching it on the PS3.

A lot less than it would take to unplug the PC, bring it in the living room, replug it, ( I woudn't even know how to plug the sound into my home theater), and then get on netflix and order a movie...Besides how many PC users even have a spare HDMI cable to plug their PC to their TV ?

Plugging your PC to your TV is still not something most people know how to do or would consider, sorry...

I meant to say earlier that the only thing PS3 did innovative is blue-ray and some people have put that into question.

Like many other people have just said, if a console does what PC already does, it's not innovative.

PS3 and XBOX360 really doesn't offer much that PC owners don't already have.  That is why many PC owners also own the Wii.




 

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Cobretti2 on 11 September 2009
joora said:
Cobretti2 said:

Nintendo should of done some aqcuisitions of studios that went bust. ie factor 5 and free radicals. It would not hurt them. All they would need to do is give them gidence like the old days Nintendo and Rare, and these third parties could of had some awesome games on the Wii.

That would just create them financial burden if/when the times go bad.

I like the thing they're doing now - simple cooperation (like with Metroid - other M or with sega on S&M) -> greater flexibility and they can take their IP's in new directions. I would love to see what would Suda51 do with some of N's IP's

 

 


what financial burden? they have make a load in profit. If they loose 10% of it does it matter to much? If they take some risks the rewards could be much bigger.  I am not saying go out and spend all that money. The state those companies were in would of been a cheap sale.

 

Hell I would of even baught 3D realms and next gen launch duke nukem on the next HD Nintnedo console with MORE improved motions controls. THis would win over heaps of westerners who been waiting.



 

 

Mr Khan on 11 September 2009
Cobretti2 said:
joora said:
Cobretti2 said:

Nintendo should of done some aqcuisitions of studios that went bust. ie factor 5 and free radicals. It would not hurt them. All they would need to do is give them gidence like the old days Nintendo and Rare, and these third parties could of had some awesome games on the Wii.

That would just create them financial burden if/when the times go bad.

I like the thing they're doing now - simple cooperation (like with Metroid - other M or with sega on S&M) -> greater flexibility and they can take their IP's in new directions. I would love to see what would Suda51 do with some of N's IP's

 

 


what financial burden? they have make a load in profit. If they loose 10% of it does it matter to much? If they take some risks the rewards could be much bigger.  I am not saying go out and spend all that money. The state those companies were in would of been a cheap sale.

 

Hell I would of even baught 3D realms and next gen launch duke nukem on the next HD Nintnedo console with MORE improved motions controls. THis would win over heaps of westerners who been waiting.

 

Okay, it's doing that thing where it doesn't let me post outside the box.But anyway, This would really be counter-productive for Nintendo. Just buying up developers would be a red ocean thing to do. Nintendo needs to acquire newer studios, or just continue cooperating with outside developers.


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joora on 11 September 2009
Cobretti2 said:
joora said:
Cobretti2 said:

Nintendo should of done some aqcuisitions of studios that went bust. ie factor 5 and free radicals. It would not hurt them. All they would need to do is give them gidence like the old days Nintendo and Rare, and these third parties could of had some awesome games on the Wii.

That would just create them financial burden if/when the times go bad.

I like the thing they're doing now - simple cooperation (like with Metroid - other M or with sega on S&M) -> greater flexibility and they can take their IP's in new directions. I would love to see what would Suda51 do with some of N's IP's

 

 


what financial burden? they have make a load in profit. If they loose 10% of it does it matter to much? If they take some risks the rewards could be much bigger.  I am not saying go out and spend all that money. The state those companies were in would of been a cheap sale.

 

Hell I would of even baught 3D realms and next gen launch duke nukem on the next HD Nintnedo console with MORE improved motions controls. THis would win over heaps of westerners who been waiting.

 

Nintendo's advantage over MS and Sony is being "small" and focused only on gaming industry. They already have kickass first/second party dev teams which bring them millions of dollars with each game released. Buying more devs would only make them bigger and less flexible. They just don't need that. I'm sure when they'll be ready to acquire a dev or two, they would look for an uprising dev team which has not yet etablished itself on the market - not that expensive, yet at peak of their creativity.

The "bargain deals" you're suggesting are mostly teams without the most creative ppl (which left them for greener pastures).

And I hope that your 3DR suggestion was a joke. I'm sure George B and his boys would finish DNF just in time for Wii 3 release.



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theRepublic on 12 September 2009
Cobretti2 said:
like a few people said,

it is the lack of games mainly from 3rd parties. Look at this HUGE window Nintendo left open. They cannot complain that they are competing with Nintendo games.


Nintendo should of done some aqcuisitions of studios that went bust. ie factor 5 and free radicals. It would not hurt them. All they would need to do is give them gidence like the old days Nintendo and Rare, and these third parties could of had some awesome games on the Wii.

Problem is I don't think Nintendo Japan realise just yet how important good 3rd party games that are western oriented are for people outside of japan.

They should also bring back quality control. Screw those whining developers who complained about how hard it was to pass a game on the N64. This is what gave the N64 an aweosme alround library of games.

Last I heard, what is left of Factor 5 is mired in lawsuits.



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