| dtewi said: http://www.voorpaginanieuws.be/berichtown.html/43238/Mario!/Nintendo You all fail -1 for you |
I was looking for that article when I made that post. Couldn't remember if it was Mexican or Spanish.
He's right, everyone cares about graphics.
That's why the PS3 continues to outsell the PS2 week on week, PS2 games just are not selling and people are dumping their old PS2 machines due to the terrible last generation graphics!!
I'm being sarcastic incase anyone thinks otherwise.
| Words Of Wisdom said: Are we talking about games still, or plumbing? You did know Mario was Mexican right? I never said I agreed or disagreed with motion-control. If you re-read accurately and outloud you might notice that the OP is stating since Wii has motion control it is doomed, because not everyone likes motion control. This is like saying, since I hate football video games (despite loving football) I can not possibly like PS3 or XBox360. Why? Because they have football games! (Gag gag gag, I hate hate hate, therefore I will not buy a PS3 XBox360). This is silly. Why? Because that also means I would be hypocritical in saying this, since Wii games also consist of football games. The OP is ignoring that, and apparently you've ignored the OP entirely as well, getting back at the actual argument from HIM, not me, that motion control means a console is doomed. It was a simple statement "motion controls are not going to be liked by every gamer, and that's because the Wii-mote does not work for all genre's." You've made far too much of it. The first part is undeniable. The second part is arguable at best. I say this, you say that. I say I've met another dozen people who love Wii, who's to say I'm wrong? Or right? OP says what he wants, I can say what I want too. But, you have to go back to the points, not the selective words you wish to read. The points. Um... now you're just rambling. Your arguments are starting to run out a steam. Think on it for a while and come back. I'm enjoying this. |
Right right... that's why I haven't heard a constructive reply from you for at least a post now. If you can't come up with an actual argument other than "you're out of steam, you lose" comment then according to you I haven't lost steam, just lost the need to have any more.
Numbers: Checker Players > Halo Players
Checkers Age and replayability > Halo Age and replayability
Therefore, Checkers > Halo
So, Checkers is a better game than Halo.
| facher83 said: Right right... that's why I haven't heard a constructive reply from you for at least a post now. If you can't come up with an actual argument other than "you're out of steam, you lose" comment then according to you I haven't lost steam, just lost the need to have any more. |
What did I lose?
If you reread my original post, you'll notice I said that I disagree with grandmaster192 but didn't find your arguments worthwhile. I still don't. I was never arguing he was right so much as your arguments fell short of proving anything.
If you can see the difference, I think this has been worthwhile. If not, well, I had fun. ^_^
Facher, wow, I know how you feel where the person on the opposite side is incapable of understanding the argument at hand. Words of Wisdom, let me try to simplify it for you.
OP said "Wii doesn't have enough variety to appeal to everyone."
Facher said "Could you explain somewhere where it seems to be weak?"
You said "Not everyone likes Mario and Zelda."
Facher said "So what? That's not all the Wii offers."
It's simple really. I dislike Halo, does that mean the XBox has nothing for me? No.
On the second point, OP said "Motion controls won't be liked by everyone."
Facher said "So what? There are other ways to play."
You said "But not everyone likes motion controls."
Facher said "And...?"
You said "NOT EVERYONE WANTS MOTION CONTROLS"
There are other ways to play. Simply because motion control is available doesn't mean it has to be used. The Wii has at its disposal both classic and wiimote style configurations. This allows for either motion controls or traditional set ups to be made. If people don't like motion controls, they can always use regular.
For the third point, it goes something like this: OP says "Some people won't like the Wii."
Facher says "I, personally, have yet to meet someone who doesn't like the Wii."
You say "I HAVE met people who don't like the Wii."
Facher says "Meh, it's all anecdotal evidence so it really has no weight as it can't be used."
You say "YOUZ DONT BELEVE MEZ?"
Facher says "It's not that I don't believe you, it's that it can't be proven."
We can make up all the anecdotal crap we want, but unless we can prove it, it means absolutely nothing. I guess the classic internet meme "Pics or it didn't happen" is pretty applicable here.
RolStoppable said:
Remember "Wii is a fad, it will slow down in 5 - 7 years"? This is a similar sitch. -1 superchunk |
I hate you all.
MARIO AND LUIGI ARE ITALIAN!!!
call me Aaronbunny!
Wii code: 6993 4542 2457 6182. plz add me Im a wiily gd friend
| jhlennon1 said: http://www.nintendorevolution.ca/10132007/15/more_nintendo_wii_bashing_from_cnet "Listen, we all know the Wii is selling well, but that doesn't mean people are actually playing the console," he writes. "Sorry to say, graphics still matter, and because it is lacking, some walk into a room, play with it for an hour, tell everyone how fun it is, and go back to their PS3 to marvel at the look of a game," Reisinger theorizes. But "if people decide to buy it because it looks nice at a friend's house and proceed to play it until they get bored with it, where are the opportunities for third-party developers to make money?" |
Words Of Wisdom said:
What did I lose? |
<3 tarheel91
WoW: It was never an objective to prove anything other than grandmaster192 was using immature reasonins to back up his unfactual statements. YOU took my statements as hard concrete without ever taking them as rersponses to gm192, and I honestly can't see anything other than that, unless you can explain it to me (hence a constructive debate (not argument)) on a (hopefully) educated forum.
FYI, constructive debates are supported with attempts at evidence, citation, and un-biased statements. I will certainly include sarcasm, such as my meeting 68,286 people who hate the XBox 360, just because I can type it, as long as users on this forum take it as fact.
Numbers: Checker Players > Halo Players
Checkers Age and replayability > Halo Age and replayability
Therefore, Checkers > Halo
So, Checkers is a better game than Halo.
| HappySqurriel said: YTD North American Software Sales: Software Totals:
Even if you take away Wii Sports, the Wii is doing pretty well being that it hasn't had the quantity of major releases this year that the competition has had. On top of that, one has to wonder how much of an impact the virtual console has on game sales because I'm far more likely to buy a good VC game that a crappy Wii game. |
i'm a little confused, those numbers seem bogus
the most current numbers i can find are here...
http://vgchartz.com/weekly.php?date=39362
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