And almost every single one of the xbox games  coming out can say the same thing, guess 360 has a bunch of kick ass games coming out!

BTW in terms of ratings, killzone sucked it badly, and 2 million on a 120 million console is not that great....., it mostly sold cause of the "halo killer" hype

I highly doubt that. It probably sold because of the huge marketing campaign Sony put behind it, with life-size Helghan models at the entrances to Gamestop, billboards and posters everywhere etc.

Yes i was kinda meaning that ith the halo hype, it was also advertised quite a bit

 If only Sony would do that with some PS3 games. Warhawk is a killer title, yet nobody but guys like us on gaming forums know about the game.

The issue with warhawk is the online, there isn't many systems out there with online, even if is free...

And maybe thats why they dont advertise the game, the online is free to the consumer, but somebody has to put money for the servers, and with just a few users who wants to take the first step???

Plus Warhawk is competing with established franchises like COD and Halo. Most people find those game adequate for their multiplayer gaming.

I did really. How about you?

Also I have friends that worked on Lair and I can tell you that the frame rate was the main reason why it got delayed multiple times. They were squeezing the 30FPS out of their 1st generation engine. 

My hd tv lets me see :D

There are around 700k people registered on warhawk's leader boards.

I am around rank 7k, whats your rank? Also I see ps3 exploding in 2008.

BTW Halo3 runs at 640, yes, but they render the frame twice with different light settings (Just for the HDR) and then they combine them in one single frame...

Right, I AM a sony fanboy... proud to be one since PS1.

4 million people are not wrong. If you have a 360 you should buy Halo 3, it's a good game, not excelent or a technical achievement but a good game. I hate the freaking split scree, who the heck thought splitting awide screen format game in the middle horizontally was a good idea? wtf? Also I hate the drama soundtrack but otherwise it's fun.

From ign.com

Halo 3 got 10 presentation, 9 for graphics and 10 for sound. LOL, 10 for totally average sound effects and some drama music

Lair got 8 for presentation, 7.5 for graphics and an amazing 8 for sound. This is not fair.

Lair sucks, I don't like it, but if you going to rate it by categories then you better judge those categories independently of how much you like the game.

I already posted earlier that I have friends that work on Lair and I can tell you the game runs at 30FPS most of the time. Getting to the 30FPS was the main reason behind the delays.

Also, you totally wrong about me not having any idea why bungie didn't do the 1080p. I know. I am a software developer and I read about technology all the time so let me explain:

Halo 3 runs at 1152x640 because they used 2 frame buffers. This was done to get better lighting. They used one frame buffer for the high dynamic range values and the other for the low dynamic range values. Both buffers are then combined to make the finished screen image.

I never said xbox is being pushed. What I said was: If Bungie/MS can't push it to the limit with 200+ dev team then who can? 

PS: Lair runs at 1920x1080. This is almost 4 times Halo's image frame buffer. 4 times the amount of pixels to process with at least as good lighting as Halo 3 (my opinion at least).

Now my last comment. Don't tell me to shut up, that is rude. Everyone in here is somewhat of a fanboy. Otherwise why would we be reading this forums?