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I just pointed out that many financial analysts including this guy now consider MS is in trouble.

Nearly every MS business is in trouble, they just try to do too many things, he just says they need to come back on their core business.

If telling this fact makes me 'crazy' then yeah, I'm crazy.



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He has a slight point, but I don't class Xbox 1 or RROD as failures. MS have maintained their 2nd place in this gen despite the RROD, and successfully took 2nd place last gen, creating a toehold in the market without which we wouldn't have the 360.



Everyone interested in technology should care about MS. They are big and not going anywhere anytime soon. But have they lost their edge? It sure seems like it. Sure, they still dominate the OS market, but the competition has doubled their % of the share and look to be moving up. Win7 should be huge for them (I personally found it to be their best OS yet, but still not good enough for me to pay for considering the fact that what makes it good is what they copied from free competitors such as Ubuntu), but the fact that a lot of business don't find it worth the hassle to upgrade it's not too likely to reverse the current trends. A lot of their other software is losing ground even faster (Office, IE) to free competitors and there really is almost nothing they can do to stop that. The Xbox division isn't nearly as dismal as the analyst seems to think, though.

Overall, MS's issue isn't that they aren't innovating and it isn't that they don't remain dominant, it's the fact that people are actively seeking alternatives to their products. Often this is due to the fact that people just plain do not like their unsavory business tactics. While it's a small crack in their armor right now, it just keeps growing. The more people that try Linux, for example, the more people are willing to work on Linux which in turn makes more people willing to try it. MS will need to do something serious to retain its absolute dominance, and I don't think they have it in them to do that with their existing product lines.



You do not have the right to never be offended.

@Asriel : 'second place' doesn't mean much when you have to basically give the console for free to achieve that, and your competitor sells 400$ consoles...

And even like that, they roughly sell the same as the PS3 right now... It's barely a half-success.



Carl2291 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
mario64 said:


Looks like only fanboys believe everything is right for MS right now.

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Funny you mention fanboy.

A. Things are much worse at Sony.

B. This earnings report was totally expected by Microsoft, and any analyist worth his salt.

C. Just because one analyist says something, doesn't mean they all agree.

D. Just because everyone isn't yelling "Doomed!" after MS reports a completely negligable loss for 1 earnings report, doesn't mean we're all fanboys. I wonder if you'll dig up some Sony hate articles and post them?

E. I wonder how Sony's financials will go over, next time they announce their monumental losses. Especially considering how they can't afford it, and MS can.

F. MS is certainly doomed. I'm sure you'll agree. However, in actuality, MS is handeling the recession very well.

The guy you responded to seems to have a screw loose...

But why do you have to bring up Sony three times in a thread about Microsoft?

And id just like to point out, gebx is the guy who posts the Sony hate articles, dont try persuade someone to take his job.

MARIO64 - Is gebex's OPPOSITE TWIN - He reports all things that portray microsoft in a negative light.

Why hasn't torillian banned this microcephalic?



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ChichiriMuyo said:
Everyone interested in technology should care about MS. They are big and not going anywhere anytime soon. But have they lost their edge? It sure seems like it. Sure, they still dominate the OS market, but the competition has doubled their % of the share and look to be moving up. Win7 should be huge for them (I personally found it to be their best OS yet, but still not good enough for me to pay for considering the fact that what makes it good is what they copied from free competitors such as Ubuntu), but the fact that a lot of business don't find it worth the hassle to upgrade it's not too likely to reverse the current trends. A lot of their other software is losing ground even faster (Office, IE) to free competitors and there really is almost nothing they can do to stop that. The Xbox division isn't nearly as dismal as the analyst seems to think, though.

Overall, MS's issue isn't that they aren't innovating and it isn't that they don't remain dominant, it's the fact that people are actively seeking alternatives to their products. Often this is due to the fact that people just plain do not like their unsavory business tactics. While it's a small crack in their armor right now, it just keeps growing. The more people that try Linux, for example, the more people are willing to work on Linux which in turn makes more people willing to try it. MS will need to do something serious to retain its absolute dominance, and I don't think they have it in them to do that with their existing product lines.

This.

TruthforFree said:
Carl2291 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
mario64 said:


Looks like only fanboys believe everything is right for MS right now.

...

Funny you mention fanboy.

A. Things are much worse at Sony.

B. This earnings report was totally expected by Microsoft, and any analyist worth his salt.

C. Just because one analyist says something, doesn't mean they all agree.

D. Just because everyone isn't yelling "Doomed!" after MS reports a completely negligable loss for 1 earnings report, doesn't mean we're all fanboys. I wonder if you'll dig up some Sony hate articles and post them?

E. I wonder how Sony's financials will go over, next time they announce their monumental losses. Especially considering how they can't afford it, and MS can.

F. MS is certainly doomed. I'm sure you'll agree. However, in actuality, MS is handeling the recession very well.

The guy you responded to seems to have a screw loose...

But why do you have to bring up Sony three times in a thread about Microsoft?

And id just like to point out, gebx is the guy who posts the Sony hate articles, dont try persuade someone to take his job.

MARIO64 - Is gebex's OPPOSITE TWIN - He reports all things that portray microsoft in a negative light.

Why hasn't torillian banned this microcephalic?


MARIO64 seems more like a nintendo fanboy. what you are looking at is PS3beats360.



@TrueMSFanboy : I reported your childish attacks too. The only one here that should be banned is you, you attack me, I don't. I just don't care about you.

If you're not happy with people who disagree with you, feel free to go elsewhere.



TruthforFree said:
Carl2291 said:

The guy you responded to seems to have a screw loose...

But why do you have to bring up Sony three times in a thread about Microsoft?

And id just like to point out, gebx is the guy who posts the Sony hate articles, dont try persuade someone to take his job.

MARIO64 - Is gebex's OPPOSITE TWIN - He reports all things that portray microsoft in a negative light.

Why hasn't torillian banned this microcephalic?

He's not banned because being obviously biased is not ban worthy.  Gebx got banned for doing that kind of thing because he would have 5-6 threads at a time all on the front page.  Until Mario 64 comes close to actually cluttering up the front page with his anti-MS threads like Gebx did with his Anti-Sony the two situations are not parallel.



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TruthforFree said:

MARIO64 - Is gebex's OPPOSITE TWIN - He reports all things that portray microsoft in a negative light.

Why hasn't torillian banned this microcephalic?


Because he will just make another account if banned.

And this topic is useless, I doubt any sane person would care about this kind of "analysis"